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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    CC's in different bikes are not all equal. XR400 is almost the same as a DRZ400 which is not a powerful bike at all, probably around mid 30 for HP. 450 YZF or CRF are pushing 50 HP.


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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    Quote Originally Posted by Foolds View Post
    Yep 9v.. I'm not sure a 400 would suit me.. I'm not a heavy guy 145 lbs but 6foot 3
    dude for a bigger bike they are quite nimble. i was only like 511 and 150 when i got mine lmao
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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    Quote Originally Posted by Bueller View Post
    CC's in different bikes are not all equal. XR400 is almost the same as a DRZ400 which is not a powerful bike at all, probably around mid 30 for HP. 450 YZF or CRF are pushing 50 HP.
    Quote Originally Posted by maktastik_jr. View Post
    dude for a bigger bike they are quite nimble. i was only like 511 and 150 when i got mine lmao
    God I have so much to learn.. Sorry guys for being an idiot. The good news is ive talked Kitten(aaron) and his wife into letting him buy a dirty girl too!

    What about an older 99-2001 wr400? vs a xr400?

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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    Quote Originally Posted by Foolds View Post
    God I have so much to learn.. Sorry guys for being an idiot. The good news is ive talked Kitten(aaron) and his wife into letting him buy a dirty girl too!

    What about an older 99-2001 wr400? vs a xr400?
    well being a honda afficianado, i would go for a xr400. dont know anything about the 426 motor(yamaha)
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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    for some reason honda xr 400s are hard to find though.
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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    XR probably a good choice for a noob trail rider as they are air-cooled, so no radiators to bust/replace. I vote for plated.
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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    Quote Originally Posted by Foolds View Post
    God I have so much to learn.. Sorry guys for being an idiot. The good news is ive talked Kitten(aaron) and his wife into letting him buy a dirty girl too!

    What about an older 99-2001 wr400? vs a xr400?
    We better get on it before she changes her mind!

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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    What about this guy? Better or worse then WR 250 F?
    http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/3171418520.html

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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    About the same, would be a good choice if you can stomach green.
    If you look at it see if the exhaust has a spark arrestor and check the right radiator, might be bent.
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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    Quote Originally Posted by Bueller View Post
    About the same, would be a good choice if you can stomach green.
    If you look at it see if the exhaust has a spark arrestor and check the right radiator, might be bent.
    how do I know if the spark is under arrest =)

    Thanks Bueller!

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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    Quote Originally Posted by Foolds View Post
    how do I know if the spark is under arrest =)

    Thanks Bueller!
    grab a stick and poke inside the can. if it only goes in like 3 to 6 inches it has one. if the stick goes all the way in, it does not.

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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    I like it, and you can change the seat cover for less green if you want.
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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    Ok I was on the phone with the OHV dept and am confused as ever. I was told you need an OHV sticker on ANYTHING you take onto trails, plated or not. OK I get that; a fee for use system. So what constitutes a trail? Unmarked singletrack or anything with a brown sign? Are CR## numbered roads trails? FS## numbered roads? And if I don't have a sticker on my truck, I can only get as far as the trailhead?

    BTW the lady also told me to get the blue, non-resident sticker.
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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    The trail must be on the MVUM map, which is a whole nother cluster!
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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    A rock solid bike would be a KDX200 I'm looking at that as a possible addition. I would say my XR650R but its a big bike although more then capable of doing shit.

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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    Quote Originally Posted by asp_125 View Post
    Ok I was on the phone with the OHV dept and am confused as ever. I was told you need an OHV sticker on ANYTHING you take onto trails, plated or not. OK I get that; a fee for use system. So what constitutes a trail? Unmarked singletrack or anything with a brown sign? Are CR## numbered roads trails? FS## numbered roads? And if I don't have a sticker on my truck, I can only get as far as the trailhead?

    BTW the lady also told me to get the blue, non-resident sticker.

    Yep, if say you are running single track or Quad trails you need a OHV sticker even on a plated bikes. I now also sport the sticker its only $25.25 so not a huge deal. One USFS Ranger I talked with said the plain is to even patrol Jeep Trails in 5 years as everyone will need a sticker...he rolled his eyes and said it never be enforceable as for one they are a 9-5 organization and trying to explain to Grandpa from KS how they are suppose to have a sticker is going to be pointless.

    I think how the Forest service should handle this is that the rangers should have stickers. Maybe charge you an extra $10 for hassle fee and watch you apply it to the vehicle in question.

    Anyways YES, you need a OHV sticker.

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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    I now also sport the sticker its only $25.25 so not a huge deal.
    Well, with 2 bikes AND the truck it adds up.
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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    Quote Originally Posted by asp_125 View Post
    Well, with 2 bikes AND the truck it adds up.
    I've argued that point what about people with many motorcycles for themselves. The response is typically "if you can afford multiple motorcycles then you can afford to OHV sticker them all". I then point out a lot of people don't have multiple $10,000 bikes but multiple $1,000 used ones. Only response is "oh". Again for most they see it as YOUR WEALTHY SO YOU CAN PAY THE EXTRA MONEY...which is total BS.

    I think how it should be done is like the National Park Pass. a nice hard plastic credit card sizes pass you keep on your person and is good for YOU so if you own 1 or 10 bikes your good to go. Maybe have that option as a more expensive option but then less hassle to try and remember to sticker all your bikes.

    I think up to a certain size/age there should be no OHV stickers because you want new people to join in on the sport.

    All my dirt miles and I have ran across 2 Rangers who both were in their vehicle and just looked to see if I was plated. I have yet to run across a ranger out in 717, Rainbow Falls or any other area.
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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    I have only one dirt bike, but you do get two stickers (just a thought). We've been checked a couple times but not very closely, like you said.
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    Re: Dirty Guys Please Help Me Understand Plated VS OHV

    There's plated DRZ400Es, XR400s and KDX200/220s out there for only a couple hundred over a non plated one. Get one of those if it's your first trail bike. I've ridden heavy pig 4strokes and Motocross 2 strokes and I prefer the 2 stroke but they're harder to ride than a "trail bike". Here in CO they make it pretty easy to convert any Dirtbike, but it'll probably cost you more to do that than buy one that's already plated.

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