HPR Dec 2 lapping day

[The GECCO]

They just need a 10 signup minimum for the track to open for the day during the winter. Car guys get the minimum all the time. Bikes don't. They really don't staff any different for 10 than they would for 50. The problem is getting the minimum. If you pay as a walkup it is $10 more, so early online signup is the financially prudent thing to do.

Correct. Ten riders ($1000 gross) is roughly our "break even" point by the time I pay the hourly staff and the ambulance, and I'm happy to run the day at zero profit if it means ten people come out and had fun. However, I cannot justify running it at negative profit, hence the minimum of ten or else we cancel. Some have suggested avoiding the hard costs by not having workers or an ambulance. I refuse to do that, I feel doing so provides a substandard product to the customers and puts the customers at risk. It also puts the existence of the track at risk, as running in such a manner could be considered negligent.

We don't have the minimum requirement during the summer simply because it's virtually a given that any day we're open we will get enough customers to cover our costs. During the winter that isn't the case, especially on motorcycle days.

[madvlad]

Nuff said

[Radek]

Very few people what?

how about punch card peeps, do they all pre-register ? make that registry mandatory for all with that if they miss it , they can pick other day, I mean like some preregistry mandatory sheet on web , table and phone #

[Radek]

Correct. Ten riders ($1000 gross) is roughly our "break even" point by the time I pay the hourly staff and the ambulance, and I'm happy to run the day at zero profit if it means ten people come out and had fun. However, I cannot justify running it at negative profit, hence the minimum of ten or else we cancel. Some have suggested avoiding the hard costs by not having workers or an ambulance. I refuse to do that, I feel doing so provides a substandard product to the customers and puts the customers at risk. It also puts the existence of the track at risk, as running in such a manner could be considered negligent.

We don't have the minimum requirement during the summer simply because it's virtually a given that any day we're open we will get enough customers to cover our costs. During the winter that isn't the case, especially on motorcycle days.

in summer if rain can come any day people can preregister and pay and then if rain comes thay can pick other day, instead talking week before how its gonna rain

[Bueller]

Whut???????????
If the track is open why would they turn people away because they didn't preregister?
It is simple, wanna ride, preregister by noon on Friday. If you use a punch or previous credit, email trackmanager@hpr.com and let him know you plan to attend to get counted towards the minimum. It ain't rocket science.

[madvlad]

This is epic

[rybo]

Some have suggested avoiding the hard costs by not having workers or an ambulance. I refuse to do that, I feel doing so provides a substandard product to the customers and puts the customers at risk.

Thank you Glenn!

Some of you have been around long enough to remember how "test and tune" days have been run in Colorado in the past. No workers, no ambulance, sometimes no one else even at the track. I fully agree with Glenn that this puts the riders who participate in those days at risk, especially given that HPR is nearly an hour from the nearest ER equipped for the kind of trauma we create for ourselves when we fall down.

I will gladly pay a little more per day and sign up early on the days I can attend to assure that this level of service remains available.

[thankgod]

Correct. Ten riders ($1000 gross) is roughly our "break even" point by the time I pay the hourly staff and the ambulance, and I'm happy to run the day at zero profit if it means ten people come out and had fun. However, I cannot justify running it at negative profit, hence the minimum of ten or else we cancel. Some have suggested avoiding the hard costs by not having workers or an ambulance. I refuse to do that, I feel doing so provides a substandard product to the customers and puts the customers at risk. It also puts the existence of the track at risk, as running in such a manner could be considered negligent.

We don't have the minimum requirement during the summer simply because it's virtually a given that any day we're open we will get enough customers to cover our costs. During the winter that isn't the case, especially on motorcycle days.

Nice, I would'nt feel safe if their was no ambulance or marshals keeping a close eye on the riders.

[madvlad]

I wouldnt ride without proper staffing and EMT's, no way no how. Do sure appreciate the fact that HPR takes care of people/riders

[jgixxer1]

off topic, but simce this thread is dead anyway...will HPR hold a customer appreciation day again this year, weather permitting??

[madvlad]

off topic, but simce this thread is dead anyway...will HPR hold a customer appreciation day again this year, weather permitting??

Oh yea, this

[rybo]

It's in the HPR calendar, look between Xmas and new year.

[The GECCO]

It is simple, wanna ride, preregister by noon on Friday. If you use a punch or previous credit, email trackmanager@hpr.com and let him know you plan to attend to get counted towards the minimum. It ain't rocket science.

Actually, there's a new system this year. Rather than email, on the registration page there is an option to register with a card/credit by filling out an online form.

Either way, it's pretty simple...

[tecknojoe]

off topic, but simce this thread is dead anyway...will HPR hold a customer appreciation day again this year, weather permitting??

It's in the HPR calendar, look between Xmas and new year.

I forgot about that. Damir let me get my leathers back

[madvlad]

I forgot about that. Damir let me get my leathers back

Never! ... Its being held for ransom and the ransom is a duke R ... Lmk when you'll be home and I'll drop by.

[tecknojoe]

Thank you Glenn!

Some of you have been around long enough to remember how "test and tune" days have been run in Colorado in the past. No workers, no ambulance, sometimes no one else even at the track. I fully agree with Glenn that this puts the riders who participate in those days at risk, especially given that HPR is nearly an hour from the nearest ER equipped for the kind of trauma we create for ourselves when we fall down.

I will gladly pay a little more per day and sign up early on the days I can attend to assure that this level of service remains available.

If this is still happening, then next time one of these days is scheduled, PLEASE let me know and I will corner work for free from the tower. At the very least I'll know when you don't come around and can get people in the paddock on the phone and moving.

A quiet day sitting at the side of the track would be like a day at the beach for me anyways