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    Quote Originally Posted by laspariahs View Post
    Well for one the police aren't a protected group under the hate speech laws, in fact no self selecting group is.
    In what sense am I saying they need to be protected by law in order to be treated with some sense of decency? The golden rule has been around in some form or another for thousands of years. It's not a new concept.

    Quote Originally Posted by laspariahs View Post
    Is no less a statistical function than saying that a class of student are doing well or poorly biased on the data from those classes, and thus something is prescribed to fix those issues. Which is then used for funding, and tracking. Perhaps should fund and track Police departments similarly, that would be interesting.
    I have no issues with a statistical generalization of performance. As a psychology major, generalizations are made all of the time based on a patient's behavior. I agree with it when it serves to treat and correct the problem.

    Let me use your classroom example to clarify my position and what I take issue against. Let's presume that, statistically, a class of students have scored below average on their final exam. As a result, all students are labeled stupid by the administration and their peers. Wherever these students go, they are all treated as imbeciles. Is that reasonable and fair? What about the students who passed the class or did extremely well? Do they deserve similar treatment?

    Quote Originally Posted by #1Townie View Post
    Fuck that drano. First of the all fuck cops! Done. . Stop trying to suck aarons dick.
    As I was saying, the way you choose to treat others says more about you than it does them. Thank you for providing the evidence of that claim.
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    Sorry but I am with townie on this one. I have had lots of interactions with good nice cops, and I have had two interactions with officers that I will NEVER forget. Ever.

    When a officer makes sure your gopro is off is when it gets scary. One of the few times in my adulthood that I truly feared for my safety. I was actually planning what I should do if that officer were to pull a baton or his actual weapon out.

    It got so bad that a random person from the burger king next door came out to see if everything was ok, and was escorted off by two other officers that showed up.

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    As I was saying, the way you choose to treat others says more about you than it does them. Thank you for providing the evidence of that claim.
    The way i treat others or the way i post? Because ive done things for people on here on many occasion. Help with tows and even loaning out a xbox to a person i had never met before. I think i treat others with the respect they EARN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #1Townie View Post
    The way i treat others or the way i post?
    Are they not one and the same?

    Quote Originally Posted by #1Townie View Post
    I think i treat others with the respect they EARN.
    Care to explain what I have done to you that has failed to earn your respect?

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    Care to tell me what you have done to EARN it? Crazy concept... i know.

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    Apparently, I haven't. Though I don't recall ever personally disrespecting or insulting you. Usually, if I do insult somebody, I apologize. I have no desire for personal conflict with anybody here. Part of respectful and rational discourse is understanding that rarely anybody shares the same opinion on all topics. Despite our misgivings, we can still discuss the topics without it devolving to name calling and disrespectful behavior. Sadly, it does happen quite often here.

    Regardless, I don't know you personally, so I have no reason to take what you say personally. I do find myself laughing at a lot of the antics you pull on here and I recognize that's all in good fun.

    With regards to Aaron, he is a personal friend of mine, and I know he can take care of himself, but that won't stop me from backing him up or going to bat for him. Period.

    As for this thread, I know it's time for me to stop posting and move on. Catch you all later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drano View Post
    In what sense am I saying they need to be protected by law in order to be treated with some sense of decency? The golden rule has been around in some form or another for thousands of years. It's not a new concept.
    Yeah it would be nice if cops treated others as they expected to be treated. I don't think they have the right to hide behind the words hate speech, and neither do the courts, we save such language to protect people who need it, who can't help but be lumped in to a group. Just as CM can call me a dumbass liberal or a libtard or whatever, and I don't think that's hate speech, because it's not.



    Quote Originally Posted by Drano View Post
    Let me use your classroom example to clarify my position and what I take issue against. Let's presume that, statistically, a class of students have scored below average on their final exam. As a result, all students are labeled stupid by the administration and their peers. Wherever these students go, they are all treated as imbeciles. Is that reasonable and fair? What about the students who passed the class or did extremely well? Do they deserve similar treatment?
    Well if the students selected themselves in to a loosing class, it would be different, wouldn't it? Students don't choose their peers, we do that for them with tracking, cops do select their peers, they decide if they want too be associated with them in the brotherhood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drano View Post
    Apparently, I haven't. Though I don't recall ever personally disrespecting or insulting you. Usually, if I do insult somebody, I apologize. I have no desire for personal conflict with anybody here. Part of respectful and rational discourse is understanding that rarely anybody shares the same opinion on all topics. Despite our misgivings, we can still discuss the topics without it devolving to name calling and disrespectful behavior. Sadly, it does happen quite often here.

    Regardless, I don't know you personally, so I have no reason to take what you say personally. I do find myself laughing at a lot of the antics you pull on here and I recognize that's all in good fun.

    With regards to Aaron, he is a personal friend of mine, and I know he can take care of himself, but that won't stop me from backing him up or going to bat for him. Period.

    As for this thread, I know it's time for me to stop posting and move on. Catch you all later.
    well to be fair i didnt disrespect you. You took it that way. I didnt call you dumb. I
    have didnt say anything about you. I just used cursing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willb003 View Post
    Sorry but I am with townie on this one. I have had lots of interactions with good nice cops, and I have had two interactions with officers that I will NEVER forget. Ever.

    When a officer makes sure your gopro is off is when it gets scary. One of the few times in my adulthood that I truly feared for my safety. I was actually planning what I should do if that officer were to pull a baton or his actual weapon out.

    It got so bad that a random person from the burger king next door came out to see if everything was ok, and was escorted off by two other officers that showed up.
    Damn, that would be scary! Two other cops coming to cover the first cop's ass with no witnesses? This is the kind of experiences which leads to responses like mDub & Townie's above. They have nothing against the 90% (or whatever) good cops, I think. BUT, if you've been fucked and scared (which we should never feel, in a free non-Nazi, non-Commie country), YOU WILL REMEMBER that forever.

    Ok, so maybe we ARE a little jaded, oh well. The really funny part is when you talk to cops in a social environment, off-duty, (one of my best friends is married to a cop), THEN you hear the stories. Makes you trust them even less.
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    I have personally know the rider, John Paul, for years. He rides well. This is Vegas and riding safety here is a whole different animal as there is no set "style" of driving to react to. Reason: People come here from all over the world to live and vacation, and they bring with them many driving styles. When it comes to the officer's actions, this is a rugged town. In general, the law enforcement here is not on the friendliest terms with the public. The patrol officer in the video was in the wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pilot View Post
    I have personally know the rider, John Paul, for years. He rides well. This is Vegas and riding safety here is a whole different animal as there is no set "style" of driving to react to. Reason: People come here from all over the world to live and vacation, and they bring with them many driving styles. When it comes to the officer's actions, this is a rugged town. In general, the law enforcement here is not on the friendliest terms with the public. The patrol officer in the video was in the wrong.
    Same as here in Colorado! Everybody is from somewhere else. The rider was watching out for himself. Cops have a tough job, but the rider had the right of way and the cop was following too close. He was totally wrong in his reaction. If you rear-end someone it is totally on you!

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    Same as here in Colorado! Everybody is from somewhere else. The rider was watching out for himself. Cops have a tough job, but the rider had the right of way and the cop was following too close. He was totally wrong in his reaction. If you rear-end someone it is totally on you!

    Ummm sorry bro but no. Vegas is a city like no other. Sure co specially the springs but what you fail to understand is in any given weekend you the numbers matching fort carson coming to visit from all over the world. Thousands alone just from the la area. No vegas and the traffic there is a different beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #1Townie View Post
    Vegas is a city like no other.

    Why yes it is!

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    What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.... Except herpes, that shit comes back with you

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    Did anybody else notice that the cop changed lanes while in an intersection? I am unfamiliar with Vegas law but my understanding is that doing so is generally illegal. The Motorcycist was in his lane, passing the officer while both vehicles were crossing the intersection. The impact happened less than a second after both vehicles passed through the intersection. Shoot, based on the speed both vehicles were going, the cop must have started changing lanes while the bike was still passing him.
    So, the cop performed a maneuver while not fully aware of his surroundings and decided to chew this guy out.

    Upon further review, the refs decide that this cop is, in fact, kind of a dick. Some folks get angry at everyone else when they make a mistake.

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    Coulda been worse.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    I think there's little question whose at fault here. But let me clear a few things up. First off, I don't call all of you names because I don't like what you do for a living, so please extend that courtesy to me. This cop was wrong and out of line, but that doesn't make them all "fucking pigs."
    Sorry but I've never met a cop in person that didn't act like an ass. Maybe you missed the thread where we all posted incidents. Yeah, getting beat by two cops with flashlights for having a 14 year old girlfriend when I was 17 was a real joy. Fuckers! And please don't tell me or anyone what we can say in a public forum. Or are you commanding us to stop?!?!?
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