A Proposal for New/Newish Riders

[Ph03niX]

Just to clarify my previous post, when I was talking about track mentoring I was thinking about the IMI mentoring we did last year. In my experience going to IMI improved my street riding. Going to IMI helped me practice tight turns in a safe environment. I don’t go to IMI to drag a knee and so far I didn’t drag a knee. I would like one day to drag a knee so I would know how it feels but that’s not why I go to IMI.

Ive been there on my atv since im only 10 miles away. Do you tow your bike there? Cause theres a rough dirt to get there.

[WolFeYeZ]

Ive been there on my atv since im only 10 miles away. Do you tow your bike there? Cause theres a rough dirt to get there.

That dirt is a blast on my r6

[TEC 2.0]

Mick Doohan explains it best

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VruWHHEnZGw

[G35CO]

Ive been there on my atv since im only 10 miles away. Do you tow your bike there? Cause theres a rough dirt to get there.

I ride my bike.

[Zach929rr]

Mick Doohan explains it best

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VruWHHEnZGw

I understand the point the video makes, but it is still bullshit.

Who the fuck is trying to drag knee around public buses, picnic tables, and telephone booths?

[WolFeYeZ]

I understand the point the video makes, but it is still bullshit.

Who the fuck is trying to drag knee around public buses, picnic tables, and telephone booths?

There is someone in the CSC that likes to drag knee for left turns in intersections, and another who likes to almost loop wheelies in intersections...

[madvlad]

There is someone in the CSC that likes to drag knee for left turns in intersections, and another who likes to almost loop wheelies in intersections...

shhhhh

[Drano]

Count me in for contributing some funds when you have it set up. BRC is a must!

With a little over a year of street experience and a near-fatal crash under my belt, you can count me in for some receiving some mentoring. I may feel comfortable in the canyons, but I'm still a noob. I'll take as much feedback from the veterans as they're willing to give, and that includes getting some education at HPR this summer.

I can also help explain the finer points of ATGATT to the newer noobs if you want.

[UHATEIT]

The BRC is great. I was turned to it by Bob and Christie a year ago and took it at Bob's location at the Red Rocks Community College. Got me my M endorsement and learned a lot. I would like to take the next level one which is the sport bike oriented one and I think it is only 1 day for that one

[TEC 2.0]

I understand the point the video makes, but it is still bullshit.

Who the fuck is trying to drag knee around public buses, picnic tables, and telephone booths?

We'll have to get Grim to edit the bus and phone booth too, rocks, trees and creek bottoms.

[TorchRedCorvette]

This is a 100% awesome idea- sounds like a great way to fill in the gap between noobs and experts!

Jason (new member "overhere") has been riding for about a year, mostly on one of my R1's...this winter he bought a Kawi ZZR 1200 and needs to get familiar with it. He's taken the BRC but is interested in something like this, maybe even the Intermediate course sometime soon.

I took the Abate course years ago in North Dakota before I moved here; I've been to the track a couple of times and it helped a LOT, but I'm still slow there and feel like I get in the way. I would really like to get more comfortable in the canyons. I don't care about being faster, per se- I want to be the safest rider possible for myself and the riders around me.

At any rate, neither of us are complete "noobs", but I really think both of us would benefit greatly from going on even one of these rides, as we both fall into that gap. Our schedules are kind of nuts because we both work oil field out of Brighton, but if those of you who are mentoring post up rides, we'll do our best to join in. Much appreciated!!

[Grim2.0]

and another who likes to almost loop wheelies in intersections...

Rear brake rear brake rear brake!!!

[FZRguy]

You can become a comfortable, smooth canyon rider TRC by riding the local canyons...a lot. The track is a whole nother world which takes multiple seasons of racing to become a smooth, fast track rider.

[Fumet5uNo]

I would be down to take some people out and help

[madvlad]

I would be down to take some people out and help

Not the best choice of words there jk

[THoward]

This is a great idea. Not an advertisement for ABATE, but I do agree with Jim about taking the ARC. We also offer a further skilled class called ABATE Skillz...this is much more precision riding and is taught by our Rider Ed Manager. I also agree that you should get out on the track with the various schools. Just a note from experience, please make sure the folks that go out with you experienced riders know under no uncertain terms that you are NOT liable for any instruction you have given them. I know this sounds petty and silly, but as the Coaches on this forum can attest, we recommend that they do not teach anyone outside of a class. This is a result of a coach several years ago that was sued due to instruction he gave a rider.....as a "friend"...not in an insured class environment. Just cover your butts!!

[Fumet5uNo]

Not the best choice of words there jk

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[madvlad]

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Calm yourself there sparky

[Fumet5uNo]

I'm always calm...... That's my problem I'm to calm

[PunyJuney]

I would like to attend a track day but I cannot afford the cost that comes with it, kids are expensive

It’s not just the cost of attending the track day, i will need to get new tires. I currently have PR3 tires which works okay in IMI but I don’t think they will survive at HPR.

PR3's have the same compound on the outside contact patch as the Pilot race tires, just more durable in the center and then something in between...well in between. I was told that the 3 in the name means that it's like 3 types of tire integrated in to one...with each compound hitting at the right time. I melted a set quite nicely on the track on my MV Agusta last summer and you could see exactly what temperature each part of the tire was good for.
Certainly not the best choice of track tire but if you're going out for experience and safety training and not to set a record you should be fine. One of the pro's riding with us from the Isle of Man took a lap and loved them.

[madvlad]

I'm always calm...... That's my problem I'm to calm

Trust me, that's a very good thing.

[MisterDeadman]

I am totally new and would greatly benefit from any instruction. Count me in for donating, as well.

[DemonRider]

Although DolphinRider and I have taken the BRC, and I have been riding a few, I still consider myself a "Newbe" and am willing to help in ANYWAY,,, I Will / We Will donate where possible, large Family , Little Income ,,,, but We would love to see more people get what is best for all and enjoy this sport safer then ever ! DolphinRider and I will commit to helping out when we can thanks everyone (and this is the reason we enjoy being apart of the CSC , our kids will hopefully continue this sport as they grow and to see that people will ALWAYS have there back and best interest in mind no matter what. I thank you all for helping "Groom" our future......

CSC & ABATE !!!! Total and complete RESPECT !! (Enough said, see a few of you at the Parade) keep safe

[Spooph]

You can become a comfortable, smooth canyon rider TRC by riding the local canyons...a lot. The track is a whole nother world which takes multiple seasons of racing to become a smooth, fast track rider.

The track however is where you find out how far you can push your tires in a lean, not the open road. Being armed then with the knowledge of where the bike's and your limits are you can then know how much you can safely push it on the street. I am saying that if you push the bike to 100% of what it or you are capable of on the track, then you know what 70% or 60% is on the street, and can therefor use that knowledge to dial it down appropriately and even further to 40% and 30% as you approach riskier situations like canyons, sand and such.

Agreed that the track however does not give you the street smarts for situational awareness and/or traffic savvy....