Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: On getting better gas mileage.

  1. #1
    Senior Member Aaron's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    In front of all the slow bikes.
    Posts
    2,190

    On getting better gas mileage.

    I wouldn't be surprised if most of you gained 10-20% in gas mileage by religiously applying these.

    First, brakes are the worst enemy to gas mileage. An ideal trip to work for me involves absolutely no brakes, and that's about 20 miles city and highway. Every time you hit the brakes, your car slows, and you have to use gas to get your car right back up to that speed eventually. Instead of using the brakes, plan ahead and just let off the gas pedal. Doing this causes your car to go into DFCO, which keeps the engine running but uses zero fuel. The idea is we can slow the same amount as with brakes, but can do it much longer by just letting off the gas earlier. This holds true for red lights, traffic, and any other expected slowing.

    I generally let off the gas about 1/2 mile before the red lights. Everyone behind me gets mad, passes me, and then I sit right behind them after we all get stuck at the red light. You're a winner, good job you got past me! Anticipate where you'll need to slow down, and let off the gas instead of using the brakes.

    Keep engine rpm low. Besides being quieter and smoother, lower rpm uses less gas. Shift your cars early, I typically shift mine at 2,000rpm. The people behind me get mad for accelerating so slow, they pass me winning the prize, and then we cruise at the same speed. If your car has the power and is a manual skip 2nd and 4th, just go 1-3-5(6). Unfortunately my daily driver doesn't (1991 BMW 525i). Believe it or not, throttle percentage doesn't really have an impact on gas mileage, so you can press the gas pedal. However be mindful of power enrichment, which is where a car goes rich during high throttle levels to cool the cylinders. We absolutely never want to go into power enrichment. Unfortunately it's extremely difficult to know when this is happening. But as long as you never go above 80% throttle you'll be fine.

    On the highway, follow big cars. Semis are the best if you aren't in a hurry. Drafting works. Get right behind them as close as you dare, and sit there. Semis drive slower than traffic so they rarely have to brake, and generally use cruise control so they maintain steady speeds. Now we should use cruise control on flat, non mountainous or hilly roads, but if you drive well, you'll get better mileage off cruise control by drafting. Or draft with cruise if you can exactly match the speed. It's impossible though.

    On hilly roads, let the vehicle slow on the uphill, then accelerate on the down hill. Say you want to average 60mph on a drive. Let the vehicle slow to 50 going up the hill, then go 70 on the way down the hill. Obviously cops and other people don't like this, but where you can do it it does help.

    Raise your tire's air pressure. If you don't mind the harsher ride, and have good traction, you can run at your tire's max.

    Down force is bad. If you are the serious gas mileager, you'll make plexiglass covers to block off the openings in your front grill during the colder weather. I have yet to do this, but I have considered it. You aren't going to overheat when it's 0 degrees outside. Plenty of cars have trouble even reaching operating temperature in extremely cold weather. VW did a test where they had a TDi go something like 6 hours before the t-stat even opened for the first time. So for the winter, use the covers to smoothly block off the radiator gaps, and all of the other gaps in the front end. Under-body trays are also very helpful for mileage. Just leave ports to get to your oil drain plug.

    Weight is the enemy of everything good on a car. Acceleration, handling, stopping distance, gas mileage, everything is hurt by weight. Cut excess weight as you can. Small, light wheels are a good place to do this. I'm not going to go through every place you can cut weight, but there are a bunch. On the other hand though, if you're worried about safety then you want weight. In a crash, the bigger car always wins. I've never seen an F350 lose a crash with another car.
    Last edited by Aaron; Mon May 27th, 2013 at 12:17 PM.

  2. #2
    Senior Member Nolan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Arvada, Co
    Posts
    701

    Re: On getting better gas mileage.

    Please don't draft my semi. It pisses me off because I don't know if you're going to try and pass me at the exact time I need to move over or if you really like me being in control of your car.

  3. #3
    Senior Member Aaron's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    In front of all the slow bikes.
    Posts
    2,190

    Re: On getting better gas mileage.

    Ya I was afraid semi trucks don't like it. Hopefully they don't mind when I do it, as I make it clear I don't want to pass and I really don't get all that close. But like a track day, the guy in back carries all of the responsibility, so in theory at least you shouldn't have to worry about me, although I know you do (which is what makes you a good driver).

  4. #4
    Senior Member Nolan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Arvada, Co
    Posts
    701

    Re: On getting better gas mileage.

    I don't know if I'm a good driver or not. I just assume everyone is a suicidal/homicidal maniac on the roadways.
    That's why I don't like them around. Regardless what I'm driving.

  5. #5
    Senior Member matt2778's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    The slow guy in the back
    Posts
    535

    Re: On getting better gas mileage.

    I just throw it in neutral and kill the engine on the downhills
    If You Can't Ride It or Take it to Bed. It Ain't Worth Having!

  6. #6
    Senior Member Aaron's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    In front of all the slow bikes.
    Posts
    2,190

    Re: On getting better gas mileage.

    Nolan that's probably what makes you a good driver.

    Matt that's even better, the reason I don't do that is you lose power brakes, run the risk of your steering locking, and I worry about my car's starters going out.

  7. #7
    Senior Member cbrjohnny's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Galaxy far far away!
    Posts
    600

    Re: On getting better gas mileage.

    buy an electirc car... focus on driving your car and keep off the phone dont worry about driving with out brakes... use em' they make you safe! dont over fill your tires unless you want to wear them out in the mid of the tread... tires are not cheap! rotate em instead and keep them at the recommended pressure that is on your door they will last longer.

  8. #8
    Senior Member Ted's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    596

    Re: On getting better gas mileage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post

    ... On the highway, follow big cars. Semis are the best if you aren't in a hurry. Drafting works. Get right behind them as close as you dare,


    If i noticed a car followed me for too long, i usually took an unplanned exit off the the interstate. It's very annoying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nolan View Post
    Please don't draft my semi. It pisses me off because I don't know if you're going to try and pass me at the exact time I need to move over or if you really like me being in control of your car.
    +1
    Last edited by Ted; Mon May 27th, 2013 at 03:27 PM.
    __________________
    W L F

  9. #9
    Gold Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    nv
    Posts
    8,381

    Re: On getting better gas mileage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    Ya I was afraid semi trucks don't like it. Hopefully they don't mind when I do it, as I make it clear I don't want to pass and I really don't get all that close. But like a track day, the guy in back carries all of the responsibility, so in theory at least you shouldn't have to worry about me, although I know you do (which is what makes you a good driver).

    yeah not the best idea in the world. blow outs happen. also you wont have enough reaction time to avoid objects in the road that the big trucks might kick up. i see lots of broken windshiels with this advice.

    also truckers are targets for robbed. so yeah leave the trucks alone.

  10. #10
    Member TEC 2.0's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Winter Park, CO
    Posts
    90

    Re: On getting better gas mileage.

    Why would you want to hyper mile a sportbike, Is 40+ mpg really not enough? Even in your car, not driving like an asshole, is a good start! i spent a week and Denver and was amazed how many people drag race from stoplight to stoplight and drive 85+ on I-25 and I-70.
    Last edited by TEC 2.0; Mon May 27th, 2013 at 07:46 PM.

  11. #11
    Senior Member sag's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Fort Collins
    Posts
    729

    Re: On getting better gas mileage.

    driving economically is good, hypermiling is ghey as ferk.

  12. #12
    Member Mac020's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Colorado Springs
    Posts
    401

    Re: On getting better gas mileage.


Similar Threads

  1. The Official "2009 mileage Contest" thread...
    By daemon in forum Old Sticky Threads
    Replies: 103
    Last Post: Sat Oct 3rd, 2009, 06:34 AM
  2. V-Twin Mileage
    By YllwVTR in forum Bike Tech
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: Tue Feb 22nd, 2005, 09:24 PM
  3. Advice on High Mileage Bike
    By dgoldan in forum Bike Tech
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: Tue Jul 20th, 2004, 10:29 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •