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    Re: Rider down on bear creek canyon

    Anyone dropping into the canyons up in Morrison has warm tires... Unless you live at the Conoco
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    Re: Rider down on bear creek canyon

    Excellent post big-sur.
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    Re: Rider down on bear creek canyon

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezzzzy1 View Post
    Anyone dropping into the canyons up in Morrison has warm tires... Unless you live at the Conoco
    Great point, but what if you camp at the Conoco waiting for others for a while .....
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    Re: Rider down on bear creek canyon

    Quote Originally Posted by Ted View Post
    Great point, but what if you camp at the Conoco waiting for others for a while .....
    unless its raining or sunset there is no shade where you should park Warm Tire problem solved

    and i do live 3 min from Moco and ive never had tire warming issues just drifting issues
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    Re: Rider down on bear creek canyon

    Well, if you must know...oh old and wise canyon carver...

    I arrived at MoCo early and waited around for over an hour before the group left. So yeah, cold tires. I've done that same turn a million times on non-cold tires and had zero problems.

    This happened 3 years ago.

    But thank you for sharing your option.

    PS I switched from Q2s to Pilot Road 2s because the PR2s doubled my tire life while maintaining 90% of the handling of the Q2. After the first set I couldn't even tell the difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by big_sur View Post
    No, blaming tires for crashing is ridiculous. Ride within the limits of your equipment and yourself. If your tires are cold, they will have less traction. You should know that and even if they do start to let go, you should be able to feel for and correct that or you shouldn't be riding that quickly. A more accurate description of that crash is probably something more along the lines of, "I started losing the front end and didn't correct it quickly enough so I low sided" Taking responsibility for and learning from your mistakes will make you a much better rider at the end of the day as opposed to just blaming the tires, switching brands, and moving on. That car turned in front you? You should have been watching more closely\been more defensive\etc. Your chain came apart? You should have done your maintenance\checked your chain before you went out\etc. There was gravel in the road? You should have adjusted your speed to conditions\been riding in the car tracks\etc. See how this works? You have your life in your hands, do you really want to trust other people with it? I've crashed the shit out of some motorcycles and every single one has been my fault.

    Also as an aside, Q2\Q3's have some of the quickest warm up out there, definitely better than power pures I've ridden.
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