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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    You don't need to tape lights. Pull fuses is fine but not mandatory.
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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    Thanks!

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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    Ok, I'm 100% in. I'll be in the Maroon FJ Cruiser pulling my GSXR. I'll probably get a shade garage if anyone wants to share.

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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    I have about 1200 street miles on my oil (mostly the twisties up into Blackhawk, Nederland, and Estes)... should I change it? I'm geared -1/+2 so I'm shifting a little more often as well...

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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneM1 View Post
    I have about 1200 street miles on my oil (mostly the twisties up into Blackhawk, Nederland, and Estes)... should I change it? I'm geared -1/+2 so I'm shifting a little more often as well...
    You should be okay but make sure to change it when you finish at the track
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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneM1 View Post
    I have about 1200 street miles on my oil (mostly the twisties up into Blackhawk, Nederland, and Estes)... should I change it? I'm geared -1/+2 so I'm shifting a little more often as well...
    Whoa -1/+2 isn't that a street setup for more low end torque. At the track you'll be in the higher rpm all the time I imagine with that setup. I went -1 in front on my ninja and that thing but s through gas and rides at higher rpm on the freeway its also obnoxiously loud. I dont know if I could go +2 in rear as well.
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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    Seriously UHATEIT, I just geared mine -1 +3 and that is great for track only riding. Yes it's some aggressive gearing, but o the track it's perfect. Not made for highway. But then again, I'm done on the streets. I'm building my bike for track only.

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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    First time to the track and I had an absolute blast! ~125 miles of pure fun!

    Thanks for hauling my bike Nolan!
    Last edited by ThorneM1; Sat Nov 1st, 2014 at 06:57 PM. Reason: Make that 154 miles!

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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    Quote Originally Posted by milehizx6r View Post
    Seriously UHATEIT, I just geared mine -1 +3 and that is great for track only riding. Yes it's some aggressive gearing, but o the track it's perfect. Not made for highway. But then again, I'm done on the streets. I'm building my bike for track only.
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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    Quote Originally Posted by milehizx6r View Post
    Seriously UHATEIT, I just geared mine -1 +3 and that is great for track only riding. Yes it's some aggressive gearing, but o the track it's perfect. Not made for highway. But then again, I'm done on the streets. I'm building my bike for track only.
    I guess that's good for track so you can keep it in the higher rpms. I still ride street all the time a -1 front is about as far as I will go. The rpms are about 1000 higher at freeway speeds which burns more gas for me and the exhaust blares. But for the track your setup is probably what people would want. I don't a desire to do track yet but when that time comes I'll keep in mind the -1/+3 for a track bike
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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    My better half took some decent pictures of the day sometime this week I'll try and post up the album.

    If you're looking for fuel economy on a sportbike, you're doing it wrong. With that my average on the street is 50mpg, out at hpr the computer said 35mpg.... and I suck. There's so much more that the bike can do than I can.

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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Nolan View Post
    My better half took some decent pictures of the day sometime this week I'll try and post up the album.

    If you're looking for fuel economy on a sportbike, you're doing it wrong. With that my average on the street is 50mpg, out at hpr the computer said 35mpg.... and I suck. There's so much more that the bike can do than I can.
    My difference came from the SV to the ninja. I dont know how it did it but SV was sv was averaging 57-61 but she ninja is averaging 35-40. Yes it has more cylinders and I do have a power commander. The gearing did mess with it too. Its not that THAT'S what I care about on a sport bike. But I only ride street and commuting to the mountains and riding around it gets significantly less than the SV and I miss going 200 miles between fill ups. To each their own on what they want to do or get out of their bike. For me its not my time yet to be doing track riding. I enjoy the street and the mountains so I would like a little bit more mileage out of it.
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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Nolan View Post
    My better half took some decent pictures of the day sometime this week I'll try and post up the album.

    If you're looking for fuel economy on a sportbike, you're doing it wrong. With that my average on the street is 50mpg, out at hpr the computer said 35mpg.... and I suck. There's so much more that the bike can do than I can.
    35mpgs still isn't bad at the track. Last time I did a MPG check, I normally see around 24-25mpg's once I hit the track. Then again, I'm 1 down, 2 up for gearing on my 1000cc, which I know skews the mileage just a bit. However, I do burn a lot of fuel, way more than I ever did on the street. I can normally get four sessions and then my low fuel light comes on and that's about 35-40 laps worth of riding.

    So just using easy math, 40 laps X 2.25 miles per lap(PMP) = 90 miles traveled, then divided by 3.5(gallons) = 25.714mpgs

    Which is about right, as I put about 3 to 3.5 gallons of fuel in for lapping.


    Quote Originally Posted by UHATEIT View Post
    My difference came from the SV to the ninja. I dont know how it did it but SV was sv was averaging 57-61 but she ninja is averaging 35-40. Yes it has more cylinders and I do have a power commander. The gearing did mess with it too. Its not that THAT'S what I care about on a sport bike. But I only ride street and commuting to the mountains and riding around it gets significantly less than the SV and I miss going 200 miles between fill ups. To each their own on what they want to do or get out of their bike. For me its not my time yet to be doing track riding. I enjoy the street and the mountains so I would like a little bit more mileage out of it.
    You have to remember that not only does your Ninja have two more cylinders it also makes about 40-50hp more than the SV. I don't care what anyone says, horsepower takes fuel and the more power you have the more fuel you will burn.

    Case in point, look at a MotoGP bike. For 2014 we saw factory bikes being limited from 21 to 20 liters of fuel. 21 = 5.54 gallons, 20 = 5.28 gallons. Factory 2 Bikes 22 to 21 liters of fuel. 22 = 5.81 gallons, 21 = 5.54, and for Open Bikes - 24 liters = 6.34 gallons. So with almost a gallon of fuel difference between Factory and Open bikes, you can see how teams early in the season were concerned about fuel. Especially with these high horsepower bikes.

    These are 250hp bikes that are expected to go race distance on one less liter of fuel and you can see why the teams started freaking out. Because, horsepower takes fuel and the more you make the more you'll burn. Which is why the factory teams are allowed to use their own software, it's the only way they can manage the fuel usage.

    Sure gearing will affect your fuel usage but the fact you're making more horsepower with your new bike is also a big factor as well. Unless you're running one of those gigantic stunter sprockets, then you're not going to drastically change your fuel mileage.
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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    Link to album. Currently uploading....

    http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/No.../HPR%2011-1-14

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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    Looked to be a perfect day!


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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    Yes it was! Thanks for the lapping card.

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    Re: SAT Nov. 1st Nice weather and a track day @ HPR

    Quote Originally Posted by Nolan View Post
    Link to album. Currently uploading....

    http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/No.../HPR%2011-1-14
    Thanks for the great photos!

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    Upload complete.

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