What should be done in Ferguson

[The Black Knight]

None of the news I am reading says ANYTHING about Brown grabbing the gun or being IN or ON a police car. Several eye witnesses also say that at NO POINT was there a fight or scuffle for the gun. The eye witnesses both confirmed that the LEO grabbed him by the neck at which point Brown threw his hands up and was promptly shot. There was a report released today that also confirms what I just stated.

Sounds like the LEO was a scared little bitch and shot an innocent unarmed boy.

Really?? you must be reading some whack news reports. Because not long after this all transpired it was widely reported(not only in the links that Townie provided) in many news outlets either on-line or TV media of what exactly went down.

It's commonly known that not only did they get into a fight but that Brown actually went for the officer's gun while he was still inside his police cruiser.

But just to give you an idea of what kind of person Michael Brown was, here's a rough idea of the laws he broke on just this day when he was shot.

1. Assault on Police Officer
2. Assault on an "at risk adult" at the convenience store(this at risk adult was the store owner).
3. Robbery(whether or not it was armed robbery time will tell)
4. Photos have surfaced of Brown smoking pot and posing in pictures "gangsta style" throwing up signs earlier in the day. So he's 18 and smoking pot illegally in a state that has not legalized it.

Yeah sounds to me like Michael Brown was a portrait of what a model citizen should be.

So right there are four laws he broke just on that day alone. No telling what others he's broken in the past. Because let's face it, if he's willing to break those kinds of laws, I'm willing to guarantee that he broke laws all the time in the past. He was a thug and lived the thug lifestyle, plain and simple.


So you say, "Sounds like the LEO was a scared little bitch and shot an innocent unarmed boy."

I say, sounds to me like the boy had it coming and the cop was just doing his job. The kid deserved what he got, a pine box....

Also, the arrest statistics do not lie... police target minorities. It should be the same for all of us or not at all.

You don't get arrested if you're not breaking the law. The reason why more minorities are incarcerated is because they break more laws. And before you even come at me with that tired argument of, "you can't say that minorities break the law and that's being racist." Know this, I am a minority. I have several family members that are former law enforcement. You know what they tell me?? Minorities break the majority of the laws.



Here's an idea. Don't want to go to jail, well then

[laspariahs]

You don't get arrested if you're not breaking the law.

You can't be this naive........ I guess we don't need judges then or courts or lawyers. Just cops and prisons.

[The Black Knight]

You can't be this naive........

I'm not but I will say, it's worked for me and millions of other citizens so far. I don't break the law, and guess what I've never been arrested. I've never even had a run in with Law Enforcement. You wanna know why? Because the few times I have been pulled over. I've been respectful, well spoken, clear and concise and don't come off with a chip on my shoulder to Law Enforcement. And I've been treated with the same respect that I've shown 99% of the time. I will say I did have a bad experience with a State Trooper years ago in Deckers but that wasn't just one isolated incident. In fact he had been burning motorcyclist that whole day and had been for sometime. In fact said State Trooper ended his own life about 5 years later in a stand off with his own colleagues. It was found out later that he was suffering some emotional and metal issues.

Yes we do need judges, courts and lawyers. It's all about due process. However,(taking the wrongfully accused out of the equation) the only reason you need due process when being accused of breaking the law(i.e. Murder, Rape, Robbery/Armed Robbery, Drugs, etc.) is because you broke the law.

[laspariahs]

I'm not but I will say, it's worked for me and millions of other citizens so far. I don't break the law, and guess what I've never been arrested. I've never even had a run in with Law Enforcement. You wanna know why? Because the few times I have been pulled over. I've been respectful, well spoken, clear and concise and don't come off with a chip on my shoulder to Law Enforcement. And I've been treated with the same respect that I've shown 99% of the time. I will say I did have a bad experience with a State Trooper years ago in Deckers but that wasn't just one isolated incident. In fact he had been burning motorcyclist that whole day and had been for sometime. In fact said State Trooper ended his own life about 5 years later in a stand off with his own colleagues. It was found out later that he was suffering some emotional and metal issues.

Yes we do need judges, courts and lawyers. It's all about due process. However,(taking the wrongfully accused out of the equation) the only reason you need due process when being accused of breaking the law(i.e. Murder, Rape, Robbery/Armed Robbery, Drugs, etc.) is because you broke the law.

Oh yes taking people who got arrested that didn't do anything out of the equation..... So do people get wrongfully accused, or don't they?

I've never had a run in with the cops either, but that doesn't mean I'm stupid enough to think that people don't, it happens every day, probably every hour at least of every day.

[bulldog]

You don't get arrested if you're not breaking the law. The reason why more minorities are incarcerated is because they break more laws. And before you even come at me with that tired argument of, "you can't say that minorities break the law and that's being racist." Know this, I am a minority. I have several family members that are former law enforcement. You know what they tell me?? Minorities break the majority of the laws.



Here's an idea. Don't want to go to jail, well then

I am not on the up and up on the current situation, but this statement was funny to me. I believe in last 23 years they have PROVED that over 2,000 convictions were false...new evidence, new testimony, or new technology has cleared many people! So if you think innocent people do not get arrested then you are truly mistaken because if 2000 have been cleared imagine how many do not get that and are convicted or a false crime. They still estimate 2.3% to 5% of people in prison now are innocent. I wish it was true only the guilty go to prison, but this is not always true and has been proved over and over.

321 Post Convictions exoneration's from DNA alone since 1989 http://www.innocenceproject.org/know/

• Twenty people had been sentenced to death before DNA proved their innocence and led to their release.
  
• The average sentence served by DNA exonerees has been 13.6 years.
  
• About 70 percent of those exonerated by DNA testing are people of color.
  
• In almost 50 percent of DNA exoneration cases, the actual perpetrator has been identified by DNA testing.
  
• Exonerations have been won in 38 states and Washington, D.C.
  
• The Innocence Project was involved in 173 of the 321 DNA exonerations. Others were helped by Innocence Network organizations, private attorneys and by pro se defendants in a few instances.

Some links: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...-23-years?lite

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/ronhuff.htm

http://www.thenation.com/article/168...we-sent-prison