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    Quote Originally Posted by #1Townie View Post
    Well that's not surprising considering the woman always retracts her claims. Lol.
    You mean the porn star, strung out heroin addict (oxy)? She admits it right in that article and many reports of how messed up she is. You seen how she even looks now....definitely a addict and doesn't sound like the best character to trust.....

    And here is the gruesome pics of her alleged injuries from that


    P.S. A victim can drop charges, but the State (and in particular, the Prosecutor's Office) will decide whether to move forward with the case or drop the charges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog View Post
    You mean the porn star, strung out heroin addict (oxy)? She admits it right in that article and many reports of how messed up she is. You seen how she even looks now....definitely a addict and doesn't sound like the best character to trust.....

    And here is the gruesome pics of her alleged injuries from that


    P.S. A victim can drop charges, but the State (and in particular, the Prosecutor's Office) will decide whether to move forward with the case or drop the charges.
    Hahahaha and the state will often not follow through with charges after a woman backs out.

    But yeah she's an amazing person... Makes you wonder why he was with her. Great choice in people to surround yourself with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #1Townie View Post
    Hahahaha and the state will often not follow through with charges after a woman backs out.


    But yeah she's an amazing person... Makes you wonder why he was with her. Great choice in people to surround yourself with.
    Not what it says here: http://family.findlaw.com/domestic-v...-violence.html


    Moving Forward Without the Victim's Cooperation
    Just because a victim no longer wishes to cooperate doesn't mean the case gets dropped. Unlike a private lawsuit between two parties, criminal cases like domestic violence are prosecuted by a district attorney's office. Therefore, the case against the defendant will continue even if the victim recants previous statements, assuming the prosecutor has enough other evidence available to support the charges. Other evidence of the crime might include:

    • Police reports
    • Photographs of injuries or property damage
    • Audio or video recordings, including 911 calls
    • Statements or threats made on social media
    • Medical records
    • Eyewitness accounts

    - See more at: http://family.findlaw.com/domestic-v....U68kHJ7L.dpuf


    Dang Townie you have always been about links and proving the facts...you are slippin man First I prove Tito was never charged with domestic violence, I post pics of her elbow injury, prove Tito has never failed a drug test, even shows how he was voted #1 coach of TUF. Now domestic violence. I have been through this and know for a fact a person can still be prosecuted. I went to visit a old friend in NM and while at his house he got drunk and started beating up his girl. I got involved and stopped it, but the police came anyways. The girl stated he did not hit her and that I was lying. Well they didn't care even when she cried that he didn't hit her (she had a welt on her face they could see), and they hauled him off to jail and I was called to testify...he was charged with domestic violence and sent to jail for months! I did not even need to testify as their was enough evidence even without me.....

    EDIT: Ok I now see you stated "often not" so I guess you do agree they will continue with charges in some cases. Tito's case was looked into and they found that Jenna was a liar and never prosecuted him. Plus look at the pics....a lame elbow brace and that is what happened to her from one of the most dangerous men on this planet. Now you want to talk wrong go google "War Machine" and what he did to his porn GF Christy Mack....now that was bad!

    Also, here is his new girl....Model
    Amber Nichole Miller

    http://larrybrownsports.com/mma/tito...-miller/225851 <- Some hot pics of her here....definitely a upgrade from Jenna

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    If the state can't get a hold of the victim they can not follow up charges. Simple as that. That is in any case. Well beside murder but that comes back to needing a body for the murder case.

    Yes of course the state can press charges but it becomes a waste of time and money so why go any further?

    You never answered me about if he's so stand up why he hung out with such trash. Also why is it that anyone who seems to get close to him hates him?

    Just saying bro. Your guy looks like a fuck bag.

    Why has he backed out of so many fights? I mean he challenged Dana and didn't follow through.

    Truth is you are just upset because you don't understand business. Its just business. Jones made a image and has now messed that up. Now its time to flip that script and create another. Its a never ending story and is part of why you pay managers and publicists.

    It so simple. I mean really? A religious man who just happens to be amazing at beating the shit out of people. Lol!!! Come on bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #1Townie View Post
    If the state can't get a hold of the victim they can not follow up charges. Simple as that. That is in any case. Well beside murder but that comes back to needing a body for the murder case.

    Yes of course the state can press charges but it becomes a waste of time and money so why go any further?

    You never answered me about if he's so stand up why he hung out with such trash. Also why is it that anyone who seems to get close to him hates him?

    Just saying bro. Your guy looks like a fuck bag.

    Why has he backed out of so many fights? I mean he challenged Dana and didn't follow through.

    Truth is you are just upset because you don't understand business. Its just business. Jones made a image and has now messed that up. Now its time to flip that script and create another. Its a never ending story and is part of why you pay managers and publicists.

    It so simple. I mean really? A religious man who just happens to be amazing at beating the shit out of people. Lol!!! Come on bro.
    Yup, and there was enough evidence that Jenna lied and the case was dropped. You think a elbow brace like that is domestic violence....like Jones, every saw through this and knew she was lying.

    What about my question? Where are all these failed drug tests you say he had? I find none!

    As for your question, what does it matter he choose that girl. The fact is he saw a different person in her and when she is sober she is super smart (she has made the most money in the porno industry and basically not from her but her investments). She was sober and a good person and he claimed in his book she is not like people think; as long as she is off the herion...he is real and gave her a chance and even married her. So why hasn't Jon Jones got married to the girl of this THREE kids? Since we are answering questions.

    Naw man I know people who have met and trained with Tito that say he is a great guy. So YOU may see the media Tito, but I have people I trust that know him and swear he is a great person...same with Chael Sonnen. Then I made my own decision after watching every episode of TUF he coached; and read his autobiography. So as you can see I make my judegements based on knowledge.

    See I think you are mad because you truly do not know Jones or his history; you said yourself you do not even watch UFC since Broc left and after that was when Jones blew up ,so how could you know? Do you know the details on his DUI? Do you know the details how during his DUI he was already on a suspended license and how he was with two women at 5am? I base things on my own decision and I am far from a person who goes along with others. The fact is Tito was not a greatest person, but he came out as the Bad Boy and everyone knew that was what he was; he was real enough to act himself and tell Dana white F*ck you when nobody else would. Yet I do not see why people hate on him as I have not seen anything he has done that bad.

    Yes Tito pulled out of a boxing match with Dana White because it was dumb...Tito is a professional fighter and Dana had a bit of boxing lessons....it was more of a joke for him, but Dana thought it wa serious because I guess he doesn't get thje skill of his own fighters. Tito scared of Dana White...hilarious!

    Again, Tito has pulled out of fights because he has major neck and back issues! heck I even posted the video of the neck fusion surgery he had that clearly showed he had that at same time he was supposed to fight Chuck...where you claim he was scared. I highly doubt Tito is scared of anyone to fight...especially Chuck who he fought at least three times......actually he just fought Stephan Bonner a few months back in Bellator and won! Did you even see that?

    Then you keeop talking about a business and they have to promote themselves, but the fact is UFC no longer allows sponsors in the ring and endorsements are all based on rank now! So doesn't matter what a person is like now as it is all based on ranks of how much sponsorship money they get now...starts in July, but nobody is signing new deals....therefore it doesn't matter what they portray now....this ain't WWE. Who doesn't get the UFC business!


    What about the fights on Sunday? Got anything to say on that....another UFC circus match where they are seeing a guy up to win do they make money from Ireland. You know about this????
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    The only part I'm going to get into is the me being mad. Let me clear that up. I'm not mad about Jones or Ortiz. I couldnt care less about either.

    No a single celebrity on the face of this planet means anything to me. If they died I wouldnt care. If they did bad I wouldn't care. If they did great things I still wouldn't care.

    No fighters. No athletes what so ever mean a damn thing to me and my life. Hell my favorite thing to watch on TV is hockey. I couldn't tell you who half the guys are on my favorite team.

    Why? Because I just don't. They wouldn't be there to help me. They would stop if my car was broke down. They wouldn't lift a finger for me in any situation. And for that. Fuck em. Why give them my emotions?

    I will get to the rest of your post later. Probably tomorrow. Its been a really long as day and work is really fucking me over.

    But just so you know I was just talking to talk. We haven't had shit on the forum in months. You gave me a thread to debate about. Honestly man Jones could lose his whole career and I wouldnt even read the article about it. Lol. Tito could become the governor of California and in would still make fun of him for getting spanked in the cage. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by #1Townie View Post
    The only part I'm going to get into is the me being mad. Let me clear that up. I'm not mad about Jones or Ortiz. I couldnt care less about either.

    No a single celebrity on the face of this planet means anything to me. If they died I wouldnt care. If they did bad I wouldn't care. If they did great things I still wouldn't care.

    No fighters. No athletes what so ever mean a damn thing to me and my life. Hell my favorite thing to watch on TV is hockey. I couldn't tell you who half the guys are on my favorite team.

    Why? Because I just don't. They wouldn't be there to help me. They would stop if my car was broke down. They wouldn't lift a finger for me in any situation. And for that. Fuck em. Why give them my emotions?

    I will get to the rest of your post later. Probably tomorrow. Its been a really long as day and work is really fucking me over.

    But just so you know I was just talking to talk. We haven't had shit on the forum in months. You gave me a thread to debate about. Honestly man Jones could lose his whole career and I wouldnt even read the article about it. Lol. Tito could become the governor of California and in would still make fun of him for getting spanked in the cage. Lol
    Same with me man; I really could care less about any celeb either and was just good to have some action on the board; Tito ain't even one of my favorite fighters I think we both know we like to argue and blow off some time, so no hard feeling on my end man. The funny part is the reason I do chat with you is because you are not fake; at least to me. I know when I am chatting with Townie I get Townie and not a guy trying to impress others with their posts, just a guy like me that doesn't follow the crowd and will stick up for our beliefs even if it pisses people off.


    The only celeb that has ever been cool to me is Brendan Schaub, but that is because I know his brother (only reason I get that chance to know him and listen to his podcast weekly: #1 Sport Podcast on Itunes). People hate on him, but Brendan and his brother are cool people. I figured Brendan was going to be this stuck up guy, but then I met him and saw total opposite. Getting to know him has shown me MMA fighters can be some of the coolest people even though they may be some of the toughest. I try to not base a book on it's cover now...if you know what I mean.
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    Re: UFC Champ Jon Jones tests positive for cocaine

    I can't believe this news hasn't hit the board yet. Or does everyone consider this topic beaten to death?

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    Re: UFC Champ Jon Jones tests positive for cocaine

    Quote Originally Posted by Vitesse View Post
    I can't believe this news hasn't hit the board yet. Or does everyone consider this topic beaten to death?

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mma/...ana/ar-AA8XnMx
    Wow, somehow I missed this! I figured Nick would test positive for Marijuana as he always does and does not care; he basically came out of retirement for a big pay day and he got that. Now Anderson on steroids is sad because I consider him one of, if not the greatest, fighter ever. I do not think he has ever been caught for steroids so this is huge news. After Saturday’s fight it sounded like he was thinking of retiring anyways so I bet both these guys just didn’t care what they got caught for as they both know their careers are at an end.

    What annoys me is UFC seems to keep knowing about this and allows it…so they can make money. I am sad to say the organization I love so much is turning more and more into a WWE show.


    EDIT: Yup just as I thought: "Silva had never before tested positive for a banned substance in his nearly 18-year career."
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    Re: UFC Champ Jon Jones tests positive for cocaine

    Quote Originally Posted by Vitesse View Post
    I can't believe this news hasn't hit the board yet. Or does everyone consider this topic beaten to death?

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    Re: UFC Champ Jon Jones tests positive for cocaine

    LETS GET IT ON!

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    Re: UFC Champ Jon Jones tests positive for cocaine

    I do think:

    Marijuana = not a performance enhancing sport drug
    Steriods = a major performance enhacing sport drug

    Yet do I think Nick could beat Annderson....although it was a close fight on Sat

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog View Post
    I do think:

    Vitesse, you watch UFC? Some of us get together for the UFC PPV events so if ever interested hit me up/
    I do. I feel like the cards got a little boring last year, probably because it seems like they have a new UFC event every weekend now, but lately the main event cards have improved. I thought UFC 182 was a good fight night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitesse View Post
    I do. I feel like the cards got a little boring last year, probably because it seems like they have a new UFC event every weekend now, but lately the main event cards have improved. I thought UFC 182 was a good fight night.
    I agree and all these cards make it hard to follow; at least most of them are free. I miss the days where we had like 1 card a month, but it was stacked with sick fights. UFC 182 was good; even though I was really hoping Cormier won that one, but once again Jon broke another fighter; I swear I could almost see the point where Cormier broke and his face changed. Cerrone is one of my favorites so that fight was awesome too. Could have had more finishes, but I guess that happens with such talent.

    So what you think of this Silva testing positive for the first time in his 18 year career? One part of me wants to say he only did this because he was coming back from a awful leg injury and did it to heal faster; steriods and HGH are known to heal faster. Unless for 18 years he was able to beat these tests, but I guess he does fight a lot in Brazil where there is no testing. Vegas and CA are known to have the toughest testing.

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    Re: UFC Champ Jon Jones tests positive for cocaine

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog View Post
    Yet do I think Nick could beat Annderson....although it was a close fight on Sat
    Seriously? Silva owned Nick from start to finish and Nick knew it. IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmetz View Post
    Seriously? Silva owned Nick from start to finish and Nick knew it. IMO
    Huh? Even Dana White said that Nick won some of those rounds even though he was not awarded them. There was little action so I couldn't really say Silva owned Nick; he could not even finish it and went the full 5 rounds.

    Nick knew it? You didn't see the post fight interview then where he clearly states he thought he won. I do feel Silva won, but when you went to the cards it was a close fight; especially considering that nobody really knows how MMA is truly scored; a takedown counts as a point, but a takedown defense does not...weird and nobody gets it as this scoring was mainly for boxing....Nick went all over this after fight...you must have been drunk again Josh

    EDIT: Josh sorry I just realized I made a typing error. I meant I didn't think Nick could beat Silva, but was a close fight. My bad
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    Re: UFC Champ Jon Jones tests positive for cocaine

    Looks like Anderson Silva is claiming this has to be wrong and is requesting a confirmation test:

    "Anderson told me he’s disappointed, upset because he didn’t use steroids," Dr. Tannure told Band News radio. "He will ask for the confirmation test because he believes the only explanation is a contamination or a mistake from the lab. He told me: ‘I have an impeccable career history and I wouldn’t want to tarnish my image.’
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    Just because YOU don't consider something as controlled doesn't mean its not. Pot can help kill pain. Isn't that one of the amazing things about it?

    So one guy has to work through the pain and another guy can cheat it? How about pills? Would be okay if a guy trained on pills?

    And with that why not let them full on cheat?

    But really I'm guessing Anderson got one of those protein shakes that's been getting so many guys busted. Seems a lot of them have goten nailed from getting random shakes at gnc. Or so the excuse is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #1Townie View Post
    Just because YOU don't consider something as controlled doesn't mean its not. Pot can help kill pain. Isn't that one of the amazing things about it?

    So one guy has to work through the pain and another guy can cheat it? How about pills? Would be okay if a guy trained on pills?

    And with that why not let them full on cheat?

    But really I'm guessing Anderson got one of those protein shakes that's been getting so many guys busted. Seems a lot of them have goten nailed from getting random shakes at gnc. Or so the excuse is.

    http://speedendurance.com/2009/01/22...contamination/
    I see your point and I guess it can help with pain, but you know when you compete pain takes a backseat to "adrenaline". I've been in fights and swore I never got hit till I looked and saw the welts; seriously never felt the hits though. So yeah I am sure this is why pot is on the banned list, but IMO it is nowhere near steroids in comparison to performance enhancing.

    Do you agree that steroids would be a greater performance enhancing than pot?

    As for Anderson making excuses I guess it could be, but seeing as he is one of thee greatest and never was caught in 18 years kind of makes me believe maybe there was a mix up. Anderson has fought way tougher opponents than Nick Diaz when he defended his belt 10 times in a row so would be a huge shocker to find out he was doing steroids this entire time. Should be interesting to see how this goes down, but sounds like he will get suspended if the follow up shows same results.
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    I would argue its much easier to train harder if you have some sort of pain killer flowing in your system to help you push harder.

    If one is going to be accepted than you may as well accept all of them. Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #1Townie View Post
    I would argue its much easier to train harder if you have some sort of pain killer flowing in your system to help you push harder.

    If one is going to be accepted than you may as well accept all of them. Just saying.
    Hey they broke the rules and knew they were breaking them, so I am not defending them.


    Like I said I hope this comes out and clears Silva, but if he actually did steroids then he should be suspended. This is not a sport where people hit a baseball, it is a sport where you hit another man and cheating in that case is worse.


    I only defend Silva because he is saying this is wrong and following his career for 18 years has shown me he is one of the nicest, most humble guy in the sport. I honestly do not think I have ever heard him say a negative thing even when a guy like Chael Sonnen was ripping him apart saying his people are so poor in Brazil they play in the mud. Yet if he cheated he deserves a punishment as he knew it was against the rules and decided to risk it.
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    Anybody going to the event in Broomfield next Saturday, to watch Brandon 'Rukus' Thatch take it to Benson Henderson (amongst other fights on the card...) ?
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    The fight I watched wasn't close in my book. Admittedly I don't really follow the UFC a whole lot but that fight was all Silva. It wasn't owned like "pwned" but Silva had Nicks number and Nick couldn't really gain any ground. I say Nick knew it because several times he just stopped fighting and taunted Silva. This to me showed that he knew he had nothing else. I didn't see the post fight interview but I wouldn't expect him to say he knew he was losing.
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    Re: UFC Champ Jon Jones tests positive for cocaine

    Quote Originally Posted by Jmetz View Post
    The fight I watched wasn't close in my book. Admittedly I don't really follow the UFC a whole lot but that fight was all Silva. It wasn't owned like "pwned" but Silva had Nicks number and Nick couldn't really gain any ground. I say Nick knew it because several times he just stopped fighting and taunted Silva. This to me showed that he knew he had nothing else. I didn't see the post fight interview but I wouldn't expect him to say he knew he was losing.
    Hope you saw me "edit" because I made a trying error. Only one man can beat Silva and that is the champ Weidman.

    Naw I know what you mean and Silva was awarded all 5 rounds. I guess I think of Silva owning someone like in the Forest Girffin fight where he played with him then pretty much knocked him out easily. I actually thought Nick did better than I expected as I thought Silva would go in an destroy him. Not sure if Silva was playing it safe because of his leg, or if Nick really did keep pushing him.

    Yeah Nick always makes excuses but he went off how h thought he won and how he pushed forward the entire time. Then went on to say how he doesn't understand the judging. Although to be fair Nick was actually very respectful after to Anderson and vice versa. I actually couldn't stop laughing when Anderson was on his back crying after he won and Nick came up and started slapping him to get up and how it was ok and to stop crying.

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