[ KB ] Ducati Resource

[dirkterrell]

I don't see a lot of these traits as "pushing the technology envelope."

Honda's has offered slipper clutches in different bikes for years.
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You could adjust the suspension on my 01 R6 (front and back).

The 1983 Interceptor had a slipper clutch. All of the first-generation Interceptors did, even the 500. My 1985 VF1000R has an adjustable on-the-fly rear shock. Yes, you can change the rebound damping while in motion. And it has gear-driven cams.

The VFR has had a SSS for a long time. And really, is it pushing technology or just something different? Their MotoGP bike doesn't have a SSS, so there must be pros and cons to it.

The SSSA dates to the late 1940's, so no, it isn't exactly pushing the technology envelope. It makes tire changes a lot easier which is great for endurance racing and it gives the bike a cleaner look, but it's no great technology thing these days.

I've never understood this need to justify one's taste for a certain bike or kind of bike by denigrating others. They all have their pluses and minuses. You like Ducatis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Hondas? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Kawasakis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Harleys? Great. They are awesome bikes. Enjoy the fun of motorcycling your way and celebrate others who do it their way.

[salsashark]

I've never understood this need to justify one's taste for a certain bike or kind of bike by denigrating others. They all have their pluses and minuses. You like Ducatis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Hondas? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Kawasakis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Harleys? Great. They are awesome bikes. Enjoy the fun of motorcycling your way and celebrate others who do it their way.

Thank you...


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[Sean]

And guess where most of my knowledge of the history of Honda came from, stopping by Dirk's garage.

[xxaarraa]

The 1983 Interceptor had a slipper clutch. All of the first-generation Interceptors did, even the 500. My 1985 VF1000R has an adjustable on-the-fly rear shock. Yes, you can change the rebound damping while in motion. And it has gear-driven cams.



The SSSA dates to the late 1940's, so no, it isn't exactly pushing the technology envelope. It makes tire changes a lot easier which is great for endurance racing and it gives the bike a cleaner look, but it's no great technology thing these days.

I've never understood this need to justify one's taste for a certain bike or kind of bike by denigrating others. They all have their pluses and minuses. You like Ducatis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Hondas? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Kawasakis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Harleys? Great. They are awesome bikes. Enjoy the fun of motorcycling your way and celebrate others who do it their way.

You are missing the point.

I was not denigrating any bike, my post starts with "Japanese bikes are great" I started off on a Ninja 250 and owned a CRF230 at some point so I speak from (limited) experience. Discussing things on an Internet forum is about driving positive debate. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are denigrating you.

Besides, my whole post was in response to someone expressing their preference (or lack there of for Ducatis).

Also, replying with "that's not needed" "that's not new technology" "that doesn't count as technology" is predictable and smacks of a defensive attitude.

Ride safe, enjoy yourself, maybe we'll run into each other one day. I'll be waving

[dirkterrell]

Japanese bikes are great, but they are really big, really heavy and generally don't push the technology envelope far enough to interest me.

You've obviously not checked out a Japanese bike in the last 10 years.

Maybe, maybe not. Can you name a few Japanese liter bikes with a dry clutch, single sided swingarm, adjustable shocks front and back, adjustable levers, slipper clutch, a decent FI system and let's say under 400 lbs with a 30 inch seat height?

Also, replying with "that's not needed" "that's not new technology" "that doesn't count as technology" is predictable and smacks of a defensive attitude.

Defensive on my part? Hardly. You claim that Ducati "pushes the technology envelope" more than Japanese bikes and then list a bunch of stuff that has been around for decades (and often used on Japanese bikes). Pointing out the weakness of your argument is not defensive. You like Ducatis. That's great and not a point for any sensible debate. You claim that Ducati pushes the technology envelope more or better than the Japanese. That is debatable.

[stubbicatt]

I've never understood this need to justify one's taste for a certain bike or kind of bike by denigrating others. They all have their pluses and minuses. You like Ducatis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Hondas? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Kawasakis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Harleys? Great. They are awesome bikes. Enjoy the fun of motorcycling your way and celebrate others who do it their way.

+1 this.

They are all cool. I see no need to justify my personal decisions to folks any more. It is a form of submission, which is probably why the denegration of other machines/riders. Sort of evens the field.

Ride what you like, like what you ride.

[kawasakirob]

The 1983 Interceptor had a slipper clutch. All of the first-generation Interceptors did, even the 500. My 1985 VF1000R has an adjustable on-the-fly rear shock. Yes, you can change the rebound damping while in motion. And it has gear-driven cams.



The SSSA dates to the late 1940's, so no, it isn't exactly pushing the technology envelope. It makes tire changes a lot easier which is great for endurance racing and it gives the bike a cleaner look, but it's no great technology thing these days.

I've never understood this need to justify one's taste for a certain bike or kind of bike by denigrating others. They all have their pluses and minuses. You like Ducatis? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Hondas? Great. They are awesome bikes. You like Kawasakis? Great, They are the best. You like Harleys? Great,Enjoy getting passed by a Kawasaki. Enjoy the fun of motorcycling your way and celebrate others who do it their way.

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