Swingarm sliders

[Dysco]

Is there any way to attach swingarm sliders to my dirtbike? I figure that's about the only expensive item vulnerable in a lowside (on the road).

[firefghtr]

fabricate some metal ones and weld them on

[Kim-n-Dean]

Is there any way to attach swingarm sliders to my dirtbike? I figure that's about the only expensive item vulnerable in a lowside (on the road).

I'm sure I can machine ya somethin'. I need to look at it though for a mounting position.

[Dysco]

thanks Dean- I looked and couldn't find anything to mount it to- might have to get creative. I'll hit you up next week or something.

[irdave]

I installed "nutserts" or "threadserts" on my F2 swing arm. Just drilled the swingarm in the middle near the back, installed 'em, and screwed in some spools. Works great.

[friscokidd]

thanks Dean- I looked and couldn't find anything to mount it to- might have to get creative.

i think duck tape, saftywire, and zip ties are inorder for that...

Talk to ripper, he has some HELLA big zip ties

[Mother Goose]

thanks Dean- I looked and couldn't find anything to mount it to- might have to get creative.

i think duck tape, saftywire, and zip ties are inorder for that...

Talk to ripper, he has some HELLA big zip ties

don't forget about the hammer

[friscokidd]

thanks Dean- I looked and couldn't find anything to mount it to- might have to get creative.

i think duck tape, saftywire, and zip ties are inorder for that...

Talk to ripper, he has some HELLA big zip ties

don't forget about the hammer

how can i forget oh yea....an JB weld....cant forget that either

[Mother Goose]

how can i forget oh yea....an JB weld....cant forget that either

JB weld is the poo

[KooLaid]

I had a similar wanting for my F4i. I was wondering, what about drilling a small hole for the spool bolt, tapping it for the threads? I mean drill into the machined piece welded on after the box section on the end of the swingarm infront of the axle and on the lower portion??? No welding, small hole......safe? risky?

[yakuza]

I'll be drilling my swingarm for spools sometime in the next couple months, but I don't think I'd drill it where you are suggesting. There's already holes tapped and nutserts in the swingarm for your brake line brackets, a couple more won't hurt.

[Dysco]

Fill me in on this nutsert thing- I haven't heard the term before. Pics?

[yakuza]

Google is your friend!

http://www.avdel.textron.com/index.h.../thin_sert.htm

[Dysco]

Dammit- I usually bust out the google on fools. Sweet animation. Question answered. Sankyouveddymush

[KooLaid]

I've seen the kits being sold with spools before by Lockhart, but I can't find it anymore. ALEX, what size spools are you gonna go with? kawa 10mm, Suzuki 8mm or Yamaha 6mm??? I don't know what standard size the hondas with spools are.

[yakuza]

I can't think of any Honda's that come with spools. But I think the 8mm is the right size. It won't really matter though, just buy the size spool you want, and then get nutserts that will fit the spool post.

Edit: Yeah, Dysco, I thought that animation was awesome!

[KooLaid]

You do yours, I'll check it out, then I'll do mine. I kinda would like the look of welding a "boss" under the swingarm and putting spools there too. Rather not real with jacked up paint though.

ALEX, do you know know this person? Alice Palmer MRA #666, I guess she has spools on her F4i, was wondering how they looked and came out.

[yakuza]

I've seen a few F4i's with spools, some people weld aluminum stock to the swingarm, some people drill and use nutserts. I'll do mine in the next month or so and let you know how it works out. There's a tutorial at cbrworld.net

[cosp600rr]

my 600rr came with the piece under the swingarm that is threaded for spools. They are 8mm

[mikesf4i]

just my $.02
We call "nutserts" rivnuts and use them to hold pieces of plastic together on helicopter interiors. We do not use them for many stuctural uses. They seem to spin in the material that they are mounted in. I have seen quit a few on our older aircraft that were installed by other companies that use them for structural purposes, and they do not seem to hold up well.

[KooLaid]

So what are you recommending then mike?

[mikesf4i]

Dysco
are you just looking to avoid damage?
After re reading this thread,I noticed that you started out talking about sliders and people ended up talking about spools. Spools for race stands? There is a big difference in the strength requirements for those two items. Me personally I wouldnt use a rivnut for spools and there is no way it will hold a slider on in a crash. You could look at having Dean machine you some type of peg that mounts under your axle bolt like a freestyle bicycle. I would use steel or 6061 alluminum for a base and thread a delrin slider into it.(you could use 7075 but it may be to brittle for a crash) Leave a lot of overlap and dont make the delrin part to long or it may shear off instead of sliding. Unless your riding in the snow again . Let me know if you think this would work or send me a pic of your swingarm and ill see if i can come up with something else.

As for spools I would drill and tap the hole in the side of your swingarm. Most of the stress should be on the top and bottom of your swingarm. Although there is some stress on the sides so I would keep the holes fairly small and be sure to deburr them.

[KooLaid]

Dysco
are you just looking to avoid damage?
After re reading this thread,I noticed that you started out talking about sliders and people ended up talking about spools......
As for spools I would drill and tap the hole in the side of your swingarm. Most of the stress should be on the top and bottom of your swingarm.

Well when he mentions swingarm sliders, I'm sure you're familar with those for street bikes, they make regular spools and slider spools. That would explain how it got from sliders to race stand spools. Some of us are looking into adding spools to our bikes, as dysco was looking for ways to add sliders to his dirt swingarm. For us, we think "Spool Sliders!"

As for drillig and tapping a hole, how exactly would you do that? The swingarm is a hollow box section, can't exactly "tap" threads into a thin sheet of aluminum. Unless you mean the machined section at the end like I mentioned earlier. Only problem is it'll be too close to the axle for wheel removal/adjustment. Me and Alex would surely like to know if there is a better option, I mean the three of us ride the same bikes, the F4i.

[KooLaid]

I can't think of any Honda's that come with spools. But I think the 8mm is the right size. It won't really matter though, just buy the size spool you want, and then get nutserts that will fit the spool post.

I believe the Rc-51, 954, 600rr and maybe even the 929 came with spools and they're 8mm.