Oil change on my CBR...

[Think]

So I was changing the oil on my new CBR yesterday and got to the oil filter. Went out and got a filter wrench and whenever I tried to turn it, it would stick for 2 second then slide around almost like when you strip the inside of a screw.

We put tape around the filter and everything to give it a better fit, and yes, the filter wrench I got is the smallest one that exists.

I also tried those little belt things, but the filter is so hard to reach that won't work since I can't get any leverage.

Then I tried hammering a screwdriver into the filter to turn it, and that didn't work either.

So, does anyone have any ideas on how I do this before I get my bike on a truck and take it to the shop?

[Matrix]

I am guessing its your first filter change. I dont know why but at the factory they put those things on with an impact wrench or something.
Only thing you can do now is try to get as close to the base as possible with your wrench. The integrity of the filter is gone once you jab it with a screw driver. If that doesnt work then take it to the shop.
If it makes you feel any better the next oil change will be a peice of cake.

[MetaLord 9]

Just don't jab the screwdriver in close to the base as the intake sometimes sticks out and you damage it pretty easily.

[Think]

Just don't jab the screwdriver in close to the base as the intake sometimes sticks out and you damage it pretty easily.

I jabbed it in right at the top where you would put the filter wrench since there is absolutely no other room.

[SLVRSURFR]

So I was changing the oil on my new CBR yesterday and got to the oil filter. Went out and got a filter wrench and whenever I tried to turn it, it would stick for 2 second then slide around almost like when you strip the inside of a screw.

We put tape around the filter and everything to give it a better fit, and yes, the filter wrench I got is the smallest one that exists.

I also tried those little belt things, but the filter is so hard to reach that won't work since I can't get any leverage.

Then I tried hammering a screwdriver into the filter to turn it, and that didn't work either.

So, does anyone have any ideas on how I do this before I get my bike on a truck and take it to the shop?

Same thing happened to me last week... but what i did was, i put a rag over the oil filter, and then put the oil filter "socket over that, and LIGHTLY tapped it on there with a hammer. That eliminated the play in the socket over the filter, and then loosened it up with my 3/8 inch socket..

Hopefully this is helpful.

[Think]

Same thing happened to me last week... but what i did was, i put a rag over the oil filter, and then put the oil filter "socket over that, and LIGHTLY tapped it on there with a hammer. That eliminated the play in the socket over the filter, and then loosened it up with my 3/8 inch socket..

Hopefully this is helpful.

Sweet, I'll try that tomorrow.

[SLVRSURFR]

Sweet, I'll try that tomorrow.

Let me know

[Cars-R-Coffins]

The integrity of the filter is gone once you jab it with a screw driver.

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[denver_whitest185]

so, i had to do this on a 600rr that only had 3k miles on it earlier this summer (factory filter too). worst oil change EVER!!!

what i ended up doing after the screwdriver idea didn't work (broke my screwdriver) was dent the oil filter enough to make it so i had a surface that was flat, and angled so i could take an socket extension bar and use that to tap the filter loose. once it was finally loosened, the rest was easy.

as i said, if you want me to come do it, give me a call.

[McVaaahhh]

I've used a big pair of channel-lock pliers that I have and just crunched the filter.

You could try heating the base of the filter with a torch, I don't believe there are any rubber seals in that area that you would destroy (best to do that with someone experienced though).

Let us know how it turns out...

[Ricky]

Channel Locks! It's the only way. I have had the same issue, and I've now changed the oil twice on my bike.

Another thing that helps, but not much, is to use a paper towel in the filter socket. It sorta works, but honestly the torque you get out of the filter wrench for putting the filter back on, is enough. But channel locks to get the bitch off. And even then, it still takes a lot of effort.

[Think]

BIG thanks to denver_whitest aka ted for helping me with the filter. You are a lifesaver. I'll post up a pic of the filter tomorrow.

[Think]

Here are some pics of the filter...

[SLVRSURFR]

Here are some pics of the filter...

You showed that filter who's boss, didn't ya!

[RyNo24]

Factory filter are in pain in the A$$. I do a lot of first oil changes on Jeeps and Chryslers at Go Jeep, and most of the time I have to put my big 1/2" socket pry bar on my filter claw to get them off. At the factory a robot puts the filter on mechanically so a lot of time its tightened to no end.

Also, I recommend getting a three-pronged filter claw, they get stuck filter off easier because the harder you twist the more they dig into the sides of the filter. The "band" style wrenches usually just slip around the filter if its tight.

[TFOGGuys]

Actually, the factory installs the filter to a relatively modest torque spec. What the f*ckers DON'T do is lubricate the gasket. After the vehicle sits in a warehouse for a couple of months, then on a ship for several weeks, then experiences a bunch of heat cycles, the friggin gasket develops a bond that makes super glue look like Crisco....

[Think]

You showed that filter who's boss, didn't ya!

Denver_whitest did actually. He came over and got it off in 10 minutes, if that.

[Featherhead]

hey think, i actually just basically started tearing my bike apart thursday night to prep for winter storage. i had 2 oil changes done by the dealership in cali, and doing one now was indeed a bitch because of the way they put that filter on. i used the band type filter wrench to get it off. took some scraping of the knuckles, but it worked. it actually caught me by surprise, changing the oil in my cars i've never had to use a wrench, was always able to do it by hand. i guess it helped that those were frams with the grippy stuff. oh well, live and learn. are you going to flush your coolant before you put it away?

[Spinalhaven]

should mount that as a trophy.

[denver_whitest185]

dont use frams!!! your bike will thank you later.

get some good stuff, like wix, K&n, purolator, or mobil1

[DavidofColorado]

I was going to suggest the screwdriver thing but I seen that you did first. When I did mine I had to stab the screwdriver in one side and out the other just to get it to grip.

What is wrong with frams? I have been using them for years and I can't say one way or the other if work but they are cheaper and seem to work.

[denver_whitest185]

Ive read too many times about bad draining designs on frams. by all means, use what you like, but i personally use purolator, mobil1, and Wix (napa), and ive only heard good things about K&N gold

[DavidofColorado]

I have a few of each floating around I think its worth a look inside? I think they are all paper filters but it should be interesting to look?