The Democrats have ever intention of taking our guns...

[dirkterrell]

Now, think about this idea...your "right" to bear arms also hurts others...inadvertently, but it still happens. It's an idea, so don't answer this either.

And it is a flawed idea. My right to bear arms hurts no one. If others abuse their right to bear arms and violate the rights of others, they are the ones hurting people and they should be punished. My right to bear arms does not give me the right to shoot someone without a valid reason, i.e. defending my life or someone else's.

And there is no need to put right in quotes. Self-defense is the most fundamental human right. Without it, none of the others mean much. And unlike many in our society, I consider it a responsibility. Law enforcement, as the courts have held, have no responsibility to protect me. From Bowers v. DeVito (1982):

...there is no constitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered by criminals or madmen. It is monstrous if the state fails to protect its residents against such predators but it does not violate the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment or, we suppose, any other provision of the Constitution. The Constitution is a charter of negative liberties; it tells the state to let people alone; it does not require the federal government or the state to provide services, even so elementary a service as maintaining law and order.

Dirk

[fullgrownbear]

Jeepers, Creepers, where'd ya get those peepers? Jeepers, Creepers, *(come on guys, sing along)*, Where'd ya get them eyes?

Nevermind..

[mtnairlover]

Wow...that's an old song...I mean way old...older than me even...

Jeepers, creepers....whered ya get them peepers
Jeepers, creepers...whered ya get those eyes
Gosh oh, git up....howd they get so lit up
Gosh oh, gee oh....howd they get that size

Golly gee...when you turn them heaters on
Woe is me...got to put my cheaters on

Jeepers, creepers....whered ya get them peepers
Oh, those weepers....how they hypnotize

Jeepers, creepers....whered ya get them peepers
Oh, those weepers....how they hypnotize
Where did ya get those
Golly whered ya get those
Where did ya get them there eyes

Of course, I could be wrong and you mighta meant the movie. It is almost Halloween.

Oh...yeah...I'm done postin'. You guys battle it out...or shoot it out...or whatever.

Have a nice day.

[DanFZ1]

Men are from Mars, Women-Venus.

I thought women were from Mars?

http://www.femmusic.com/wfm.htm

[tripledigits]

Terrorists and criminals already have guns. I say lets give guns to the good guys.

[MAZIN]

CCW's all around!!!! (sry had too)

[Cars-R-Coffins]

And it is a flawed idea. My right to bear arms hurts no one. If others abuse their right to bear arms and violate the rights of others, they are the ones hurting people and they should be punished. My right to bear arms does not give me the right to shoot someone without a valid reason, i.e. defending my life or someone else's.

And there is no need to put right in quotes. Self-defense is the most fundamental human right. Without it, none of the others mean much. And unlike many in our society, I consider it a responsibility. Law enforcement, as the courts have held, have no responsibility to protect me. From Bowers v. DeVito (1982):



Dirk

Even closer to home (Castle Rock; 2005)...

The Supreme Court ruled on Monday (06/27/05) that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.

You can't always rely on the gov't. Stop being sheeple.

[DavidofColorado]

I thought women were from Mars?

http://www.femmusic.com/wfm.htm

Those women would like to be from Mars but they were born on Venus.

[The Black Knight]

Even closer to home (Castle Rock; 2005)...

The Supreme Court ruled on Monday (06/27/05) that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.

You can't always rely on the gov't. Stop being sheeple.

The damnable thing is that you can't get people to realize that very fact. For some reason unknown to the rest of us, some people think that cops will be at their beckoning call. They think that since police officers are around, that they are somehow entitled to protection 24/7.

And in reality, "when seconds count, cops are minutes away."

[Cars-R-Coffins]

The damnable thing is that you can't get people to realize that very fact. For some reason unknown to the rest of us, some people think that cops will be at their beckoning call. They think that since police officers are around, that they are somehow entitled to protection 24/7.

Unfortunately we live in a society that does not take personal responsibility, and says it is alright to blame others, when bad things happen. Just look at all the civil suits these days. It's pathetic.

[The Black Knight]

Unfortunately we live in a society that does not take personal responsibility, and says it is alright to blame others, when bad things happen. Just look at all the civil suits these days. It's pathetic.

Oh I agree, I mean people suing cigarette companies because they get cancer?? People suing McDonalds because they got fat?? The worse thing is these people actually win!! Only in America....

[DavidofColorado]

Who can I sue because I am going poor from taxes on cigarettes?

But I am will you there. People sueing gun companies for making a gun that was used in a crime is the worst. But in this case it was only meant to bankrupt the gun company. Even when they usually get dismissed defending the company from the hundreds of lawsuits gets expensive.

I think inColorado if you defend yourself in a lawsuit and win, you can collect legal fees from the plaintiff. I think?

[Cars-R-Coffins]

It will only get better...

[*GSXR~SNAIL*]

...Beyond that however, the fact remains that if someone wants to hurt or kill someone else, the lack of a gun is hardly a reason that it won't happen...I'm pretty damn glad that I and most likely a majority of my neighbors have means of defense.

...The criminals don't give a shit about gun laws and arm themselves whether they're "allowed to" or not. It's trivially simple to buy a gun on the street because laws only matter to law abiding citizens.

So let me ask you, if bad people wanting to do bad things are getting the guns anyway, what good does it to do make laws that prevent the rest of us from getting them?

...My right to bear arms hurts no one. If others abuse their right to bear arms and violate the rights of others, they are the ones hurting people and they should be punished. My right to bear arms does not give me the right to shoot someone without a valid reason, i.e. defending my life or someone else's.

And there is no need to put right in quotes. Self-defense is the most fundamental human right. Without it, none of the others mean much. And unlike many in our society, I consider it a responsibility. Law enforcement, as the courts have held, have no responsibility to protect me. From Bowers v. DeVito (1982):

Dirk

I couldn't of said it any better. Good job Ralph and Dirk!

[DavidofColorado]

It will only get better...

This all I see...

[DavidofColorado]

Oh I agree, I mean people suing cigarette companies because they get cancer?? People suing McDonalds because they got fat?? The worse thing is these people actually win!! Only in America....

Not me I am going to sue McDonald because of cancer and then I am going to sue the cigarette companies for making my guns. And I am going to do it with my $300 I will get with Barrack's tax plan.

[fullgrownbear]

Unfortunately we live in a society that does not take personal responsibility, and says it is alright to blame others, when bad things happen. Just look at all the civil suits these days. It's pathetic.

Right-o you are, broseph. If you want a good one, check this out. This chick is pathetic. Judge Judy is awesome!

That link is to part two, the more interesting of the selection.