http://cbs4denver.com/investigates/D...2.1074506.html
Another "perk"?
http://cbs4denver.com/investigates/D...2.1074506.html
Another "perk"?
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"Its all about the motorbikes, always has been and always will be.". ~~ Ewan McGregor 2007
"It's hard to play the blues when nuthin's really wrong."~~ ---- Joe Walsh 2012
I.B.A. # 14748 124@X - YRMV
I understand how it can be controversial. People don't understand what they have to do to get ready for work.
The problem isn't that they want to get paid for getting dressed at home. They're required to come to work in civvies to a locker, get changed into their uniform, and report for roll call. They don't start work until after roll call.
The original suit was from some meatpackers (read the article). Same situation. They're required to be ready to work at 8am (for example). But they have to get dressed into their protective suit which can take 30 minutes. So they come in at 7:30 or 7 to change into work clothes and protective gear. At 8am they punch in and start in at killing cows.
Right now you might come to work at 7am but not really start work until 8. What if you didn't get paid until your first meeting, until you lifted your hammer, or until the first customer asked for fries instead of at 7am? But you had to be ready for that first meeting. You had to be at the job site with hammer in hand. You had to have your McDonalds uniform on. All before 8am.
I'm with them. If I have to be at work at 7am, I leave at 4pm (unless there's an emergency of course) and I get paid for those hours.
Carl
Long Distance Gear Checklist 2002 Hayabusa - Now with 100,000+ miles!
I wonder if officers pay for the use of the car for the trip to and from work? I agree with Shea. This is the kind of thing that gives unions a bad name.Among the other claims, the police department has not been compensating officers for the time it takes them to clean and maintain their "take home" department vehicles.
Dirk
Formerly MRA #211 - High Precision Racing
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self- preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property, and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."
--Thomas Jefferson
Maintaining the car and other police owned property I can see b/c it's actually saving the dept on maintenance labor. But the day I start getting paid for sitting in traffic b/c all of c470 came to halt while one of these guys was giving someone a ticket is they day I support their cause.
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Long Distance Gear Checklist 2002 Hayabusa - Now with 100,000+ miles!
I get paid to do my job for 8 hrs, my job requires a crapload more tools than these heros. My day starts at 7:00 and that is when I start. Dressed and ready to preform my job. Generally we pick up 10 min. before quiting time, but that is to lock up company tools.Right now you might come to work at 7am but not really start work until 8. What if you didn't get paid until your first meeting, until you lifted your hammer, or until the first customer asked for fries instead of at 7am? But you had to be ready for that first meeting. You had to be at the job site with hammer in hand. You had to have your McDonalds uniform on. All before 8am.
Most people in our shop are ex-Union (including the owner), and this isn't how we work. 8hrs of work for 8 hrs of pay
I hope that you are not being sarcastic in calling them "these heroes" because though you may not like when you get a ticket, that's what most of them truly are.
For future posts, lets just debate on the issues. Please guys be mature, no police bashing. (not saying that whats what you were doing Bueller, but I can see this thread going that way fast)
Whatever jack ass.
The only OTHER job I can think of that pays for the employees to dress and undress requires a brass pole, black lights, and the copious consumption of alcohol....
Thanks, Jim
TFOG Wheelsports, LLC
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Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a drug dealer an "undocumented pharmacist"
I can think of a bunch of people who would just LOVE to get a job on the Police Force. They would be happy to get dressed without pay.
(honestly I think it's ridiculous, but I can kinda see both sides - kinda)
"Keep that "what if" thought in the back of your mind; it's the angel on your shoulder balancing the devil in your right hand."
"There are many things in life that will catch your eye, but only a few will catch your heart...pursue those."
2005 SV650S Street
I'm just thinking that they'll take advantage of it. It may take them 30ish minutes to get ready, but you know there's that one guy that will get there early, clock in, bullshit for a half hour, then get ready. I think it's crap.
Chadwick
MRA #825
"You live more for five minutes going fast on a bike like that, than other people do in all of their life." - Marco Simoncelli
I agree with the kinda. We dont have 2 mill right now to settle this. You should take what you have and be happy you even have a job and one you like at that. BUT... for those of on salary, we get paid for 8 hours if we work it, we get paid for 8 hours even if we work 10. The police are not salary employees for the city, they get paid overtime if they work it. If they have to show up at work 30 mins early to put on all the required gear to do their job, why isn't that 30 mins part of their work day?
Whatever jack ass.
Then just cut their hours out on the streets. Say they are usually working 8 hours/day.... they want to be paid for putting on their gear, and eventually will want to be paid to take it off too. Keep them on the street for only 7 hours and pay them that other hour for their pampering time.
Chadwick
MRA #825
"You live more for five minutes going fast on a bike like that, than other people do in all of their life." - Marco Simoncelli
Thanks, Jim
TFOG Wheelsports, LLC
www.tfogracing.com
303-216-2400
Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a drug dealer an "undocumented pharmacist"
I say cut the 'hero's' budget --- RIGHT NOW. Upgrade a road or fix a bridge with the savings. I'll bash cops anytime I feel like it.
"Its all about the motorbikes, always has been and always will be.". ~~ Ewan McGregor 2007
"It's hard to play the blues when nuthin's really wrong."~~ ---- Joe Walsh 2012
I.B.A. # 14748 124@X - YRMV
Exactly! I don't get paid for getting up, getting dressed, and sitting in traffic to be at work at 7. Hell every time I eat food or sleep it's so I can be fully functional and alert at work, so I should get paid for that too. In fact, my food, house, and toilet paper should all be paid for too since they all contributed to my being at work with maximum efficiency.
Jeff, you're such a badass!
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Not if they are getting dressed