SuperStreet Aug. 25 @ HPR - Who is signing up?

[Sully]

I'm down for the lapping day on Friday, then SS on Saturday Should be a great time! Whoot!!

[TransNone13]

I'm going to see if I can get a pass so I can do the lapping day. I doubt it though .

[madvlad]

Originally Posted by ChangBang

Any ideas for transportation from the Denver area? I can definitely pay for the ride. Otherwise I was thinking to try to borrow a friend's' car that has a trailer hitch and renting a uhaul motorcycle trailer?

Transportation is definitely the only thing holding me back from registering.

If you have a ramp or two and tie downs and pay for gas you're welcome to use my truck since I'll most likely be making it out there anyways for corner work. Only thing is we have to get going way early cause corner workers check in at 6:30 am sharp.

[WolFeYeZ]

Originally Posted by tecknojoe

I probly wont race super crash again. but i might try to ride the lappibg day on that friday(assuming there is one). still tryin to get some seat time with rybo

You should probably do one more man, that way you can licence up when it comes to that

[tecknojoe]

Originally Posted by WolFeYeZ

You should probably do one more man, that way you can licence up when it comes to that

So is the following correct:

If I do my second super street and get my license, It will only be good through the end of the year. At the start of next season, I will need to pay to renew no matter what. So getting the license this late in the season is kinda pointless.


That's the assumption I've been going on, but I'd love for that to be wrong.

[TransNone13]

The license is $150 I think at this point and you are correct IIRC.

[Snowman]

Yes to get a race license is now $150.00.

There is a MRA general meeting at the Walnut Room this Wednesday starting at 7:00pm. All racers including potential super street racers are welcome.

http://www.facebook.com/events/182809741852209/

You can learn more about racing, and meet other racers. Talk with the board members about what you might need to get into Super Street. We can help, just ask what you need and we will find a way. I know the transportation issue can be figured out. (plus the Walnut Room has really good pizza.)

[Bueller]

If you do one of the last 2 SS you will eligible for next years licence at the beginning of the year and not miss a race if you plan on chasing points. You might be able to get a day license for the last round for $50 and it is double points so that would get you gridded up higher for the first race next year.

[Gixxxerjunkie]

Originally Posted by TransNone13

You were right, that guy swung out, tried shutting the door, and honestly crashed himself. Maybe I'm wrong... Good vid though.

Actually, that's a pretty good race line through t11 to get a good drive up the hill and carry speed through t12... usually. Unless someone is trying to pass on the inside. I didn't see that bike until we made contact. But typically, if you are the one trying to make the pass, you are also the one who needs to back off and not try to force the pass if the door shuts. The problem with Superstreet is that most riders are overeager to pass, and typically won't follow another rider to study their lines and set up the pass (e.g. passing on the brakes), not to mention that the rider being passed cannot see the guy trying to make the pass. But this class is for everyone to learn and improve, which comes with more track time. I'm glad that I wasn't hurt, and thanks to those around me for not running me over! See you guys for round 6

[Gixxxerjunkie]

Originally Posted by TransNone13

Oh wow, I didn't even notice him last time. That's pretty cool, hope he makes a perfect record and is sorted by the next SS .

Round 4 SuperStreet (PMP)

[rybo]

http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forum...ad.php?t=47616

Please read the above thread for important information

[Bueller]

Originally Posted by Gixxxerjunkie

Actually, that's a pretty good race line through t11 to get a good drive up the hill and carry speed through t12... usually. Unless someone is trying to pass on the inside. I didn't see that bike until we made contact. But typically, if you are the one trying to make the pass, you are also the one who needs to back off and not try to force the pass if the door shuts.

Actually, it is not a particularly good line. This is a common passing area because people expect the rider to stay to the left. Check out the line on this video from an instructor from STAR MC school.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdfTnZGptSk
When you drift back across to the right you go off the common line and since you hit the back of his bike he had already passed you, and the reason you went down and he didn't.
On track days following a person and studying their lines and passing in a courteous fashion is the rule. In racing it doesn't work that way very often. There is a lot of close passing and generally if you get in front it forces the following bike to pull up. It is something that takes awhile to get used to but people use your survival instinct against you.
Here is my Endurance race from earlier that day, you can see the line I am talking about as I chase Ray-Ray.
http://youtu.be/3xfb9PSRYC8

Being an a lower HP bike (SV650) we have to make some aggressive passes on the 600's we catch from the middleweight grid, I try and make them as safely as possible but the more I follow them the further the guys in front get away so I can't always wait if I want to stay in the race.

Good luck out there!

[grim]

Originally Posted by Bueller

Actually, it is not a particularly good line. This is a common passing area because people expect the rider to stay to the left. Check out the line on this video from an instructor from STAR MC school.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdfTnZGptSk
When you drift back across to the right you go off the common line and since you hit the back of his bike he had already passed you, and the reason you went down and he didn't.
On track days following a person and studying their lines and passing in a courteous fashion is the rule. In racing it doesn't work that way very often. There is a lot of close passing and generally if you get in front it forces the following bike to pull up. It is something that takes awhile to get used to but people use your survival instinct against you.
Here is my Endurance race from earlier that day, you can see the line I am talking about as I chase Ray-Ray.
http://youtu.be/3xfb9PSRYC8

Being an a lower HP bike (SV650) we have to make some aggressive passes on the 600's we catch from the middleweight grid, I try and make them as safely as possible but the more I follow them the further the guys in front get away so I can't always wait if I want to stay in the race.

Good luck out there!

Good info!

[Mother Goose]

What Bueller said! Now get off his lawn!

[WolFeYeZ]

Originally Posted by grim

Good info!

Are you signing up this time?

[rybo]

Originally Posted by Gixxxerjunkie

Actually, that's a pretty good race line through t11 to get a good drive up the hill and carry speed through t12... usually. Unless someone is trying to pass on the inside. I didn't see that bike until we made contact. But typically, if you are the one trying to make the pass, you are also the one who needs to back off and not try to force the pass if the door shuts. The problem with Superstreet is that most riders are overeager to pass, and typically won't follow another rider to study their lines and set up the pass (e.g. passing on the brakes), not to mention that the rider being passed cannot see the guy trying to make the pass. But this class is for everyone to learn and improve, which comes with more track time. I'm glad that I wasn't hurt, and thanks to those around me for not running me over! See you guys for round 6

The problem here is that you apex the turn too early forcing you a bit wide on the exit. If I had been in the following riders boots I would have made the same move he did and executed the pass. Because you're wide at the exit of T11 you end up having to make a bit of a dramatic move across the track to set up for T12. This is what causes the trouble. A later apex at T11 will automatically set up the entry to T12 and not allow the opportunity for a pass to take place.

Glad you're OK and that we get to see you at Round 6!

Scott

[grim]

Originally Posted by WolFeYeZ

Are you signing up this time?

If there is still a spot open by next weekend i will sign up and run with you guys.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by grim

If there is still a spot open by next weekend i will sign up and run with you guys.

From what I understand, Super Street registration will stay open up to the point they have 26 riders. So if can get in to registration there is a spot for you.

[tecknojoe]

I think superstreet classroom should spend a minute on safe passing. I saw a lot of very aggressive and one or 2 very DUMB moves while I was out there. Simply because, they didn't know any better and they wanted to get around the guy. I'm glad I kept my passing to certain zones because there's a few times where I could have gone for it and gotten taken out big time.

I was still able to get a few saucy passes in and enjoy myself though

[WolFeYeZ]

Originally Posted by tecknojoe

I think superstreet classroom should spend a minute on safe passing. I saw a lot of very aggressive and one or 2 very DUMB moves while I was out there. Simply because, they didn't know any better and they wanted to get around the guy. I'm glad I kept my passing to certain zones because there's a few times where I could have gone for it and gotten taken out big time.

I was still able to get a few saucy passes in and enjoy myself though

Lets get your whole race video man

[rybo]

Originally Posted by tecknojoe

I think superstreet classroom should spend a minute on safe passing. I saw a lot of very aggressive and one or 2 very DUMB moves while I was out there. Simply because, they didn't know any better and they wanted to get around the guy. I'm glad I kept my passing to certain zones because there's a few times where I could have gone for it and gotten taken out big time.

I was still able to get a few saucy passes in and enjoy myself though

Joe -

Please post this same thought in the MRA forums for Jeff Brown to see (or email him directly). There are not many of us that hang out in both places, so it's unlikely that it will get seen and discussed here.

Thanks

Scott

[tecknojoe]

Originally Posted by rybo

Joe -

Please post this same thought in the MRA forums for Jeff Brown to see (or email him directly). There are not many of us that hang out in both places, so it's unlikely that it will get seen and discussed here.

Thanks

Scott

will do. I loved his classroom talk already

Originally Posted by WolFeYeZ

Lets get your whole race video man

I keep meaning to so that one guy can see how i was following him. Ill do it after work today

[WolFeYeZ]

Finally got my video up from last SuperStreet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZsLmK4-He0

One other thing that hasn't been mentioned yet (for the 25th) is that it will be the north course. So no turns 5,6,7,8.

[madvlad]

All signed up! Going for lap day on the 24th for some practice hehe