Either way, stop the fighting and remember sh*t happens and will continue to happen.
Thank you Sir Knight.
Well thought, well played
Either way, stop the fighting and remember sh*t happens and will continue to happen.
Thank you Sir Knight.
Well thought, well played
mayo....
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain."
.........a crotch rocket going 85 to 90 down the highway looking like a power ranger on a mission...
Oh please don't stop arguing. This is very entertaining
Bummer story man but there is no way I think that to enjoy the sport someone needs to fully envision all that can happen etc, and even more that because I recognize the punk rider could have done a least a few things to aid in his own happiness that somehow I am entitled and a saint.
At what point does one take responsibility for their own life? Their own decisions? There is nothing in life that simply "happens" to people without their input and their decisions effecting it. Its a completely different level of thinking but the minute anyone realizes that they are 100% in control and responsible for their own life the world is a different place.
Thank god for gofundme because in this situation its going to give an irresponsible, drivers licenses revoked, no endorsement having, speeding, illegally passing, little gear wearing, non medically insured, no motorcycle insurance having rider that was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time, a shot at getting back on his feet.
Heaven for bid the rider thought to himself "I really shouldnt be riding, maybe I should really take it easy on this thing".
Last edited by Ezzzzy1; Wed Oct 21st, 2015 at 09:01 AM.
Lol, I tried. Never have I disagreed with this point. Much thanks for so diligently focusing on the hammer and yet again reiterating that it struck the nail so that your ego can be justified for the war path that it's on. At least, that's the only explanation I can see. Let's all take away from this then that car drivers suck, they are our enemies, we should hate them, and enjoy seeing them suffer when they hurt us, as there is nothing we can learn from this situation to help us mitigate these situations in our own rides in the future. We are powerless motorcycle riders who can only spout revenge and let the law handle this situation. /sarcam
Respect and truth trump all!
I don't get lost. I explore.
well put Edward. when I got back into riding sports bike 12years ago. Wife said you better have a lot of insurance, you have 2 lil girls, at the time 2 and 6. so I got a supplemental accidental death policy via work. thank goodness I am fortunate to have such an employer. so if I do die wife wont have to worry about the house and have a lil extra .
ever time I throw a leg over my bike I say to myself, be VERY cautious out there. it has cross my mind to sell my bike several times. 2 wheels are dangerous, especially for a person like me. maybe I just want to see my girls grow up and for me to be ambulatory.....
God damn!!! EVERYTHING goes to shit on this site!!!!
You are 40 times more likely to die on your bike than in a car. If that stat is correct, it scares the shit out of me knowing I got Kim into riding. I've talked about selling the bikes and she says, "too bad, you screwed up and got me riding and I love it!!"
It really has gotten worse in the last couple of years. Every time I get on the bike, at least four people try to kill me. It used to be only two.
...and, we've had cars run us off the road on purpose while simply riding down C-470 at the speed limit. It's so infuriating I want to pull out my 1911 and start firing!!! Some dumb ass Asian bitch pulled out in front of me and ran me into a curb and then she told me I could have stopped in time. Cost me $700 to fix the door on her Tahoe. It had a bunch of dents that perfectly matched the carbon fiber knuckles on my gloves. The cops said they didn't blame me for going off on her door and she got a ticket.
When I sent her husband the check, I included a note saying, "this only cost me $700. Imagine what it's going to cost you when she kills someone!!"
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Kim & Dean
60th Anniversary R6 - '16 R1M
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I’m going to make this as simple as I can, so that perhaps those that haven’t figured this out yet can finally understand it.
Firstly, it amusing to me that the same exact information posted on a far more mature forum (the BMW forum), gets much more mature replies, far more in line with what the DA in Texas is going to do. People there have pointed out that, yes, the guy should have his paperwork all in order. Yes, the lack of gear contributed to some extent to the injuries received. How much or how little it contributed surely can’t be estimated by anyone on their high horse here, regardless of which one in the stable they’re riding at this particular time. That is for the Dr.’s and accident scene construction folks. I can tell you a fully ATGATT’d friend of mine was racing recently when another rider took out his front wheel and made him crash, and he still ground his ankle pretty badly on the pavement. So, anyone that thinks they know “exactly” how much damage the lack of ATGATT caused is, well, riding a high horse indeed. But, this IS Colorado, so they’re riding their high horse while high themselves. I guess I expect childish replies here, but maybe not to this extent. Especially from people who, as I pointed out, certainly rode in questionable fashion with questionable legality in regards to documentation, insurance, equipment, and how much money they had saved(!!!), as absolutely absurd as that statement was. For the record, I have passed on double yellows. Sped. Had a revoked license that didn’t stop me. I was in violation of the ATGATT laws, dammit! I deserve to be deliberately hit by a guy in a car because of these past transgressions when I was as old as the “privileged punk” kids here, dammit! Oh, and we should all cross 3 lanes of traffic in our cars in order to paste any jaywalkers because, dammit, they broke the law! They were “complete pieces of shit”, and deserve to die! Children, children…..
Ok, so, for the second point, I’m also going to break it down in nice easy pieces so that the children can perhaps understand this next bit, because this is the really important one:
There are basically 2 variables to this equation:
The Rider (regardless of who he was)
The Car Driver (regardless of who he was)
Scenario 1:
An off duty cop (or paramedic, or firefighter, or surgeon, or active duty veteran) gets called in to the scene of an unfolding emergency. He’s rushing to get to work to save a life or 2. He doesn’t have time to sit behind Mr. Crum. So, he executes a safe pass (clear line of sight, speed safe for the vehicle and conditions). Mr. Crum, enraged that a motorcyclist DARES to pass him on HIS road in what HE considers is a dangerous fashion, hits the rider, permanently crippling him. The rider, if he’d been stooped by a duly appointed officer of the law, would NOT have been issued any ticket, and instead would have been given an escort.
Scenario 2:
A Father gets called to the emergency room of the local hospital because his little daughter was hit by a car in the street (She’s a total piece of shit, no ATGATT and jaywalking!!!). He’s rushing to get to the hospital to say goodbye to her before she dies. He doesn’t have time to sit behind Mr. Crum. So, he executes a safe pass (clear line of sight, speed safe for the vehicle and conditions). Mr. Crum, enraged that a motorcyclist DARES to pass him on HIS road in what HE considers is a dangerous fashion, hits the rider, permanently crippling him. The rider, if he’d been stopped by a duly appointed officer of the law, would NOT have been issued any ticket, and instead would have been given an escort.
Scenario 3:
An off duty cop (or paramedic, or firefighter, or surgeon, or active duty veteran) gets called in to the scene of an unfolding emergency. He’s rushing to get to work to save a life or 2. He doesn’t have time to sit behind a motorist. So, he executes a safe pass (clear line of sight, speed safe for the vehicle and conditions). The motorist, shakes his head, doesn’t do anything stupid by taking the law into his own hands and assaulting him with his vehicle, and drives on. The rider gets where he needs to be without incident, and saves a life or 2. The rider, if he’d been stopped by a duly appointed officer of the law, would NOT have been issued any ticket, and instead would have been given an escort.
Scenario 4:
A Father gets called to the emergency room of the local hospital because his little daughter was hit by a car in the street (She’s a total piece of shit, no ATGATT and jaywalking!!!). He’s rushing to get to the hospital to say goodbye to her before she dies. He doesn’t have time to sit behind a motorist. So, he executes a safe pass (clear line of sight, speed safe for the vehicle and conditions). The motorist, shakes his head, doesn’t do anything stupid by taking the law into his own hands and assaulting him with his vehicle, and drives on. The rider gets where he needs to be without incident and says goodbye to his daughter. The rider, if he’d been stopped by a duly appointed officer of the law, would NOT have been issued any ticket, and instead would have been given an escort.
So, it should be clear then even to the simplest of you, that the variable that 100% CAUSED that accident was the car driver, Mr. Crum, and that’s EXACTLY why the DA is going after him. Crum would have hit ANY rider passing him. So who the f#ck are any of you to go after the rider for making a couple simple mistakes that YOU have already made or are still making? Who the f#ck are any of you to go after the riders children who, regardless of the minor traffic infractions of the Father, are 100% innocent and now in a world of shit financially? “Saints and privileged punks” indeed, very apt…..
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"...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
-Theodore Roosevelt 1907
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Tokin' SortaTalian
(Pronounced: Kind-A-Dago)
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"...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
-Theodore Roosevelt 1907
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Blu/Wht '01 Gixxer 1K, '91 KX500
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Tokin' SortaTalian
(Pronounced: Kind-A-Dago)
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"...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
-Theodore Roosevelt 1907
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Blu/Wht '01 Gixxer 1K, '91 KX500
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Tokin' SortaTalian
(Pronounced: Kind-A-Dago)
I hope you no longer wonder why I don't ride with you. I won't ride with a would-be victim.
Respect and truth trump all!
I don't get lost. I explore.
mayo....
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain."
.........a crotch rocket going 85 to 90 down the highway looking like a power ranger on a mission...
You forget my friend how sue happy people are now days.
It's no longer the age of enlightenment, but the age of entitlement.
If there was a go fund me back when I needed it. I would have used it and laid blame on the people responsible.
The rider may not be the posh lovely prepared rider we all hope for, but he certainly will not receive my judgment.
Everything he's done. I have done as well
mayo....
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain."
.........a crotch rocket going 85 to 90 down the highway looking like a power ranger on a mission...
Bwahahaha! "Would-be victim"? SRSLY, are you shitting me? Man, that's funny. I've always copped guilty to any and all traffic infractions that I actually did, which was almost every time I've been stopped. Geez, let's see:
1. "M" endorsement since '83.
2. Fully insured since '83.
3. About 250,000 miles and very few incidents at all, all of them minor.
4. Hardly ever get any traffic tickets at all.
5. ALWAYS wear proper gear.
6. Don't ride like a squid.
7. NEVER rode like the kids these days doing wheelies and weaving thru traffic, even when I was a kid. (Had too many friends who did stupid crap and wrecked).
8. Ride safely, if at an, ah, elevated, pace sometimes.
9. Safe bike, well-maintained, with no sketchy parts or equipment violations.
Geez, I thought it was because I would have to unplug 3 of my 4 plug wires so you could keep me in sight.
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"...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
-Theodore Roosevelt 1907
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Blu/Wht '01 Gixxer 1K, '91 KX500
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Tokin' SortaTalian
(Pronounced: Kind-A-Dago)
...game.....set....match. Guess the kiddies got off the short bus and went home.
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"...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
-Theodore Roosevelt 1907
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Blu/Wht '01 Gixxer 1K, '91 KX500
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Tokin' SortaTalian
(Pronounced: Kind-A-Dago)
mayo....
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain."
.........a crotch rocket going 85 to 90 down the highway looking like a power ranger on a mission...
I love how you keep proclaiming your victories CM I WIN I WIN
Its even more amusing how you waste half you day writing novels on here about hypothetical mumbo jumbo that you think proves some point about how the motorcyclest that got hit was somehow justified in 1 being a dumbass and 2 riding like one.
Everything? You have ridden without your endorsement? Without insurance? Without gear? NICE!
Id love to see the lawsuit from a guy that wasnt even legal to be driving anything let alone a motorcycle that was passing illegally while speeding.
To add to my point, if he was legal, had his license even while breaking the passing and speed laws he may have had a leg to get all sue happy on and being the type of guy he probably would have instead of realizing that his dumb ass was in the wrong.
And CM, head on over to any of the AUTO forums ie mustang, corvette, GTR etc... They will eat you alive with your narrow minded bubble
I suppose im in the minority on a motorcycle forum, calling the motorcycle rider out but EVERYWHERE else they are tearing the rider a new asshole.
mayo....
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain."
.........a crotch rocket going 85 to 90 down the highway looking like a power ranger on a mission...
Forums on forums on forums... Forget all that. We all just need play a cash Poker game together sometime!
Connect4? Anything!?
What's your game CM? I'm guessing you're an Othello enthusiast. (?)
~Brandon~
Aprilia RSV 1000 R Factory - "Gemma"
MV Agusta F3 800 - "Amy Lou"
Rattan Fat Bear Plus - "Lynda"
(720) 935-6438
I rarely think of motorcycles without a little yearning. They are about moving, and humans, I think, yearn to move – it’s in our cells, in our desires. We quiet our babies with cyclic movement, and we quiet ourselves by going.
Melissa Holbrook Pierson
Can I bring my chess board and zombie cards
mayo....
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain."
.........a crotch rocket going 85 to 90 down the highway looking like a power ranger on a mission...
:googles zombie cards:
~Brandon~
Aprilia RSV 1000 R Factory - "Gemma"
MV Agusta F3 800 - "Amy Lou"
Rattan Fat Bear Plus - "Lynda"
(720) 935-6438
I rarely think of motorcycles without a little yearning. They are about moving, and humans, I think, yearn to move – it’s in our cells, in our desires. We quiet our babies with cyclic movement, and we quiet ourselves by going.
Melissa Holbrook Pierson