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    Re: 2017/2018 Tacoma

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog View Post
    Ok...lol. Although I think you are just going to tell me a HID is a bulb type...I get that, but most HID are put into a projection housing. Sure you can put a HID bulb in a regular housing I guess if it was made for that.....haven't seen too many cars like that....maybe the Tacoma is one of them
    My car came with 4300k off the factory floor on a normal headlamp, so not necessarily. The projector is used more these days but not necessary, it projects better for less glare thus why it's used more, that's all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madvlad View Post
    My car came with 4300k off the factory floor on a normal headlamp, so not necessarily. The projector is used more these days but not necessary, it projects better for less glare thus why it's used more, that's all.
    Huh...dude a HID bulb throws light everywhere...that is why a projector is needed; to focus it. Every car forum I've been on makes fun of people who put a HID in a regular reflective housing; just is blinding with light going all over. Even when manufactures did it, it really was just some cheap trick they used to focus in the light. Do any cars with HID's nowadays not come with projectors? I've seen LED's with projectors take over.

    http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...you-ricer.html

    There are many cars with projector lenses that use halogen bulbs. But the bulbs used in the projector housings do not, I repeat, do not have a shield on them. This is because the way a projector housing works, the lens (and if applicable, the shield build into the housing) does all the focusing. In some projector setups, both high and low beam patterns are available and are controlled with a movable shield.

    Few more that claim it is wrong (sure it can be done though):
    http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...sing-look.html
    http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/ve...ors.452978153/
    https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...lector-housing

    P.S. HID's in a reflector case is actually illegal in some states and you can get a ticket for it


    EDIT: Since you said your Maxima has a heated stearing wheel I'll assume it had the "Driver Preferred Package" which did have HID's, but I still tell you man that was just some cheap trick to focus the light Maxima did. You are by far not getting true HID lighting....this is one loophole where it is legal since from manufacturer, but again they must have made a special housing to focus that light.
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    Re: 2017/2018 Tacoma

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog View Post
    Huh...dude a HID bulb throws light everywhere...that is why a projector is needed; to focus it. Every car forum I've been on makes fun of people who put a HID in a regular reflective housing; just is blinding with light going all over. Even when manufactures did it, it really was just some cheap trick they used to focus in the light. Do any cars with HID's nowadays not come with projectors? I've seen LED's with projectors take over.

    http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...you-ricer.html

    There are many cars with projector lenses that use halogen bulbs. But the bulbs used in the projector housings do not, I repeat, do not have a shield on them. This is because the way a projector housing works, the lens (and if applicable, the shield build into the housing) does all the focusing. In some projector setups, both high and low beam patterns are available and are controlled with a movable shield.

    Few more that claim it is wrong (sure it can be done though):
    http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...sing-look.html
    http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/ve...ors.452978153/
    https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...lector-housing

    P.S. HID's in a reflector case is actually illegal in some states and you can get a ticket for it


    EDIT: Since you said your Maxima has a heated stearing wheel I'll assume it had the "Driver Preferred Package" which did have HID's, but I still tell you man that was just some cheap trick to focus the light Maxima did. You are by far not getting true HID lighting....this is one loophole where it is legal since from manufacturer, but again they must have made a special housing to focus that light.
    Again, projectors are predilectly used for better lighting output these days but doesn't mean manufacturers have never used a xenon set up on a non projector light. Lexus, Infiniti, Toyota and Nissan are some brands that come to mind that used factory installed xenon set ups without a projector, again my car for example. This is on older models of course as projectors and LED technology came out and manufacturers have switched since.
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    Re: 2017/2018 Tacoma

    Quote Originally Posted by madvlad View Post
    Again, projectors are predilectly used for better lighting output these days but doesn't mean manufacturers have never used a xenon set up on a non projector light. Lexus, Infiniti, Toyota and Nissan are some brands that come to mind that used factory installed xenon set ups without a projector, again my car for example. This is on older models of course as projectors and LED technology came out and manufacturers have switched since.
    Yeah some old shit then because traditionally this is a big no-no in the car modding scene nowadays, but more as a aftermarket upgrade. Like that article said, some manufactures tried this and it quickly died!....good as that bulb was meant to be focused in properly! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog View Post
    Yeah some old shit then because traditionally this is a big no-no in the car modding scene nowadays, but more as a aftermarket upgrade. Like that article said, some manufactures tried this and it quickly died!....good as that bulb was meant to be focused in properly! lol
    Yeah, it was a phase that helped towards much better lighting technologies and the US is light years behind Europe on this. Some of the laser lighting technology used by BMW and MB is outstanding overseas.
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    Re: 2017/2018 Tacoma

    Quote Originally Posted by madvlad View Post
    Yeah, it was a phase that helped towards much better lighting technologies and the US is light years behind Europe on this. Some of the laser lighting technology used by BMW and MB is outstanding overseas.
    Now I got to see your reflective housing to see how they focused this in, as normally those are just reflective material and a HID would throw light everywhere....must be some trick.


    EDIT: OK, I bet your HID bulbs are D2R or D4R bulbs. Those two are meant for your stock headlights and bet that is why they don't shoot light everywhere like normal HID bulbs.
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