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    Re: 2017 MOTOGP Season ****SPOILER ALERT*** *****WARNING - SPOILER *******

    Apparently both factory Yamaha riders were using the 2016 chassis on Sunday.
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    Re: 2017 MOTOGP Season ****SPOILER ALERT*** *****WARNING - SPOILER *******

    Quote Originally Posted by blaircsf View Post
    Apparently both factory Yamaha riders were using the 2016 chassis on Sunday.
    I highly doubt that, they were superbly fast on the 2016 chassis. Hell look at Zarco lol
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    Re: 2017 MOTOGP Season ****SPOILER ALERT*** *****WARNING - SPOILER *******

    Quote Originally Posted by blaircsf View Post
    Apparently both factory Yamaha riders were using the 2016 chassis on Sunday.
    Quote Originally Posted by madvlad View Post
    I highly doubt that, they were superbly fast on the 2016 chassis. Hell look at Zarco lol
    They were on the 2016 chassis(Rossi and Vinales confirmed this), however most of the articles I've read, don't mention what engine they were running. Engine allocation is only for this year, so they had to put a 2017 engine into the 2016(yeah I know, we were led to believe that this couldn't happen, well it did). If they were to use a 2016 engine, that would have meant a new engine used and at this stage in the championship, all the big teams have opened their engines for the year, hence getting a penalty for a new engine.

    The other factor is that both Rossi and Vinales have no experience with the 2016 chassis with the new sh*tty 2017 Michelin tires. The only one who does have this data and is used to it is Zarco, which is why he ran so well.

    Another factor is that Rossi and Vinales only used the 2016 chassis from the morning warm-up and race. So they have zero set-up time. Vinales had an issue and only did two laps on the bike, while Rossi just trolled around and found a setting that was sort of comfortable and used it. Not exactly a full race weekend on a chassis with setup time for this year's tire allocation.

    You want to know my theory for why the last minute shoehorned a 2017 engine in the 2016 frame?? They wanted to see if the problem is really the chassis or the engine. I think they got their answer, it's the engine. It eats the rear tires and has been doing this all season long. Yamaha may want to consider testing a full blown 2016 bike vs. the hybrid that Rossi and Vinales rode yesterday. IF(and big if) Rossi and Vinales were to come out for the test on a full on 2016 bike(run tons of laps) and beat the rest of the field like a rented mule, then I'd say Yamaha would have the answer they were looking for. And this were to be the case, if I were Yamaha, I'd go into the off season, slap a new paint job on a 2016 bike and call it a new 2018 bike. Cause if Yamaha fail to realize this, make another abomination of a bike next year, then get humped in the ass all season long, then it's a company/management problem and not so much a team/rider problem.
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