2017/2018 Tacoma

[bulldog]

Yeah just stopped by groove Toyota just to compare options and packages in between the trucks in general and man what a crock of shit lol... they charge an extra $700 for a tow package, dude you're buying a truck for a reason, why would I pay extra for something the truck should come with? Lord almighty... Also they force you to buy the premium package just so I can get heated seats but could care less for the rest of the shit lol... Lord dude. Also the limited Tacoma goes for nearly $42k!!!! And saw a well loaded crewmax limited tundra for 44k with all the bells and whistles including the damn tow package Toyota is about to lose a customer man, that pricing is ridiculous and oh they don't offer a long bed on the double cab which is also a crock of even more shit... fuck car shopping I'm going to haggle the fuck out of these people, they don't even know what's coming

Yup, those "packages" get you every time. I won't buy a car without HID headlights and only one model of WRX had them; the Limited (highest package). That package had navigation that I didn't need, but no other option if you want HID headlights. I've used the navigation like once as I prefer my phones anyways....what a waste of like $700+.


You are having same issue I had when trying to Find a Tacoma; damn things are expensive!


What you think of the Ford Ranger? Some people love them and some hate them, but they can be found for a decent price.

[madvlad]

As usual. I hate car salesmen with a passion, never before have I seen a group of individuals so ignorant about the product they try and sell. Their job is to get you into a car they have right then and there, whether it's what you want, in your budget, or not.

So the Tacoma does come in a double cab and long bed, but only in 3/6 trim levels: SR5, TRD Sport, and TRD Off-Road.

Yeah and I should have known better than to ask, granted I only asked him to see if they had a long bed, dude was like I don't think we have that available... I was like your website says you have two in stock, he's like no, they're not available at all FAIL

Yup, those "packages" get you every time. I won't buy a car without HID headlights and only one model of WRX had them; the Limited (highest package). That package had navigation that I didn't need, but no other option if you want HID headlights. I've used the navigation like once as I prefer my phones anyways....what a waste of like $700+.


You are having same issue I had when trying to Find a Tacoma; damn things are expensive!


What you think of the Ford Ranger? Some people love them and some hate them, but they can be found for a decent price.

Yeah, it doesn't even come with HID lights so will upgrade those as soon as I get it, it will at least come with projector headlamps so the output will be great, doing nothing more or less than a 5,000k set for the low beam and maybe same for the fogs or go to 3,000k on those. Funny part about those built in navigation systems is that it costs to update them ($150+ per year!!!!) While your phone updates for free, yeah I'm not a fan of navigation systems in cars but if I want just the damn heated seats, I'm gonna have to eat the rest but we'll see what I can work out. Not sure yet. They discontinued the ranger, else I would consider it, they're warrior trucks man. Ford was stupid for discontinuing that truck. It sold so damn well

[bulldog]

Yeah, it doesn't even come with HID lights so will upgrade those as soon as I get it, it will at least come with projector headlamps so the output will be great, doing nothing more or less than a 5,000k set for the low beam and maybe same for the fogs or go to 3,000k on those. Not sure yet. They discontinued the ranger, else I would consider it, they're warrior trucks man. Ford was stupid for discontinuing that truck. It sold so damn well

Pretty sure HID and projection headlights are the same man....just different name. Maybe you mean HID vs LED. Although there may be a HID bulb used not in a projector housing; best way to tell is if it has that glass globe.... I'll never go back to standard headlights!!!!

FZRGuy sold one a while back on here.....considered it, but sold super fast I think.

[Kim-n-Dean]

Pretty sure HID and projection headlights are the same man....just different name. Maybe you mean HID vs LED. Although there may be a HID bulb used not in a projector housing; best way to tell is if it has that glass globe.... I'll never go back to standard headlights!!!!.

My 2016 R1M has projector LED headlights.

Which are completely useless in a turn at night. They point straight at the ground when leaned over. Can't do Lookout Mtn. at night anymore!

[bulldog]

My 2016 R1M has projector LED headlights.

Which are completely useless in a turn at night. They point straight at the ground when leaned over. Can't do Lookout Mtn. at night anymore!

Good point....never had them on a bike, but I borrowed one that did and was amazed how the "lean" really messed up the viewpoint. Since they project basically a rectangle, at a lean they were horrible.

[Kim-n-Dean]

They discontinued the ranger, else I would consider it, they're warrior trucks man. Ford was stupid for discontinuing that truck. It sold so damn well

What?!? I just googled 2017 & 2018 Ranger and pulled up a ton of shit. If you do buy a Ford, you have to go see Kristian Strub at AutoNation on Broadway & C470 (Kristian on this site). I would even start there for a used car to see if they have what I want.

I got my 2015 4-door F350 for $44k out the door!

[madvlad]

Pretty sure HID and projection headlights are the same man....just different name. Maybe you mean HID vs LED. Although there may be a HID bulb used not in a projector housing; best way to tell is if it has that glass globe.... I'll never go back to standard headlights!!!!

FZRGuy sold one a while back on here.....considered it, but sold super fast I think.

I'll explain on this much further later but no, projectors and HID are not the same thing. Stay tuned...

Ranger will be back in 2019 (so next summer) - New global platform. I saw a few in Poland and in Australia, and I'm definitely keeping an eye out.

Unfortunately, they'll be every bit as expensive as the Tacomas and Colorados are.

Hmmm interesting, I had not heard of this until now. Going to have to read into this for sure but for me to pay that kind of money for a Ford, it will have to be something damn special. Doesn't hurt to check it out.

What?!? I just googled 2017 & 2018 Ranger and pulled up a ton of shit. If you do buy a Ford, you have to go see Kristian Strub at AutoNation on Broadway & C470 (Kristian on this site). I would even start there for a used car to see if they have what I want.

I got my 2015 4-door F350 for $44k out the door!

Will keep him in mind, going to research the Ranger a bit further and see whats up. I haven't been in the auto industry for over a year now so out of touch with new stuff that comes out anymore since I'm all about motorcycles now lol

[bulldog]

I'll explain on this much further later but no, projectors and HID are not the same thing. Stay tuned...

Ok...lol. Although I think you are just going to tell me a HID is a bulb type...I get that, but most HID are put into a projection housing. Sure you can put a HID bulb in a regular housing I guess if it was made for that.....haven't seen too many cars like that....maybe the Tacoma is one of them

[madvlad]

Ok...lol. Although I think you are just going to tell me a HID is a bulb type...I get that, but most HID are put into a projection housing. Sure you can put a HID bulb in a regular housing I guess if it was made for that.....haven't seen too many cars like that....maybe the Tacoma is one of them

My car came with 4300k off the factory floor on a normal headlamp, so not necessarily. The projector is used more these days but not necessary, it projects better for less glare thus why it's used more, that's all.

[bulldog]

My car came with 4300k off the factory floor on a normal headlamp, so not necessarily. The projector is used more these days but not necessary, it projects better for less glare thus why it's used more, that's all.

Huh...dude a HID bulb throws light everywhere...that is why a projector is needed; to focus it. Every car forum I've been on makes fun of people who put a HID in a regular reflective housing; just is blinding with light going all over. Even when manufactures did it, it really was just some cheap trick they used to focus in the light. Do any cars with HID's nowadays not come with projectors? I've seen LED's with projectors take over.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...you-ricer.html

There are many cars with projector lenses that use halogen bulbs. But the bulbs used in the projector housings do not, I repeat, do not have a shield on them. This is because the way a projector housing works, the lens (and if applicable, the shield build into the housing) does all the focusing. In some projector setups, both high and low beam patterns are available and are controlled with a movable shield.

Few more that claim it is wrong (sure it can be done though):
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...sing-look.html
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/ve...ors.452978153/
https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...lector-housing

P.S. HID's in a reflector case is actually illegal in some states and you can get a ticket for it


EDIT: Since you said your Maxima has a heated stearing wheel I'll assume it had the "Driver Preferred Package" which did have HID's, but I still tell you man that was just some cheap trick to focus the light Maxima did. You are by far not getting true HID lighting....this is one loophole where it is legal since from manufacturer, but again they must have made a special housing to focus that light.

[bulldog]

What?!? I just googled 2017 & 2018 Ranger and pulled up a ton of shit. If you do buy a Ford, you have to go see Kristian Strub at AutoNation on Broadway & C470 (Kristian on this site). I would even start there for a used car to see if they have what I want.

I got my 2015 4-door F350 for $44k out the door!

Not sure why their site shows this, but the Ranger was stopped way back on 12/22/11. https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/...ing-the-ranger

[madvlad]

Not sure why their site shows this, but the Ranger was stopped way back on 12/22/11. https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/...ing-the-ranger

That's why I didn't bother looking into it, cause Ford had scrapped it

[bulldog]

That's why I didn't bother looking into it, cause Ford had scrapped it

Was looking at the 2019 Ranger coming soon, but doesn't seem like good news as it appears it will be a short bed with 4 doors.

None of the 2019 Ford Ranger’s competitors currently offer a regular-cab body style, and we expect the Ranger’s lineup in the U.S. to start with the SuperCab two-door body style in the low $20,000 range, with a four-door SuperCrew model available for a few thousand more.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2019-...hat-to-expect/

[madvlad]

Was looking at the 2019 Ranger coming soon, but doesn't seem like good news as it appears it will be a short bed with 4 doors.

None of the 2019 Ford Ranger’s competitors currently offer a regular-cab body style, and we expect the Ranger’s lineup in the U.S. to start with the SuperCab two-door body style in the low $20,000 range, with a four-door SuperCrew model available for a few thousand more.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2019-...hat-to-expect/

Yeah, not a fan when I googled it and doubt it'll be as reliable or as good as the old one. Think I will stick to the Tacoma, just a matter of keep searching for the right package and price. Looks too much like a Chevy in my eyes