703 WRHP vette gets a walk in the park

[lightspeed]

You guys seen this video???? My GOD!!!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ng-a_56059.htm

[Tipys]

Hey I didnt know Kawi made a GXSR 1000

[lightspeed]

Originally Posted by Tipys

Hey I didnt know Kawi made a GXSR 1000

Obviously the driver of the vette titled the vid..

[The Black Knight]

Really it's not all too surprising. The level of performance you get with a bike I think vastly outweighs the performance you get with a car when compared dollar for dollar. The Bike vs. Car debate will rage on forever but one can't deny that in stock showroom form. Bikes will always win hands down.

Sure you've got heavy hitters like the Vetter, Viper, EVO's and STi's running around. But they pale in comparison to the latest Literbikes. Sure cars have advantages like more grip in corners and better braking. What they lack is sheer power and agility. Plus cars just take up more room on a racetrack.

I'll have to dredge up the magazine that had the comparo in it. But they pitted a stock ZX-6R vs. stock Corvette Z06, and a moderately modified ZX-10R vs. highly modified Skyline and in both instances the cars got spanked. The magazine had tons of data taken at the track. One statistic I do remember very well from the article was the Slalom speed of the ZX10R, it clocked a 124mph!!! slalom speed, and the Vette and Skyline were in the 70mph range.

Another magazine you might try to find is the "Motorcyclist 2002 GSX-R1000 vs. Z06 Corvette" edition. I used to have it in a stack of older mags but haven't been able to trace it down for a long time now. Suffice to say the GSX-R mopped the floor with the Z06. I remember it could go 0-100-0 quicker than the Z06 could just reach 100mph. It beat the Z06 in every category(skidpad, slalom, 0-60, 1/4 mile, you name it). On certain parts of the track they used, the GSXR was going through corners almost double the speed of the Vette.

Don't get me wrong I love fast cars and think they are awesome. But there sure is something to be said, when you get that "corruption of power" smile on your face as you just handed some dude in his high priced car his butt on a plate, with your modest $10k bike.

[firefghtr]

wow....thats why kawi's rock out. thats impressive. im sure that vette wasnt a slowch

[SamuraiX]

Looks like a 10R to me.

[lightspeed]

Originally Posted by The Black Knight

Don't get me wrong I love fast cars and think they are awesome. But there sure is something to be said, when you get that "corruption of power" smile on your face as you just handed some dude in his high priced car his butt on a plate, with your modest $10k bike.

My thoughts exactly!

[Think]

Originally Posted by firefghtr

wow....thats why kawi's rock out. thats impressive. im sure that vette wasnt a slowch

I'd think any liter bike could whoop the vette like the kawi did.

[RyNo24]

I am not surprised at all either. Most liter bikes push a 3 to 1 HP to Weight ratio. Indy cars barley push a 2 to 1 ratio. Do the math lol.

[YZFRydn]

Originally Posted by The Black Knight

Really it's not all too surprising. The level of performance you get with a bike I think vastly outweighs the performance you get with a car when compared dollar for dollar. The Bike vs. Car debate will rage on forever but one can't deny that in stock showroom form. Bikes will always win hands down.

Sure you've got heavy hitters like the Vetter, Viper, EVO's and STi's running around. But they pale in comparison to the latest Literbikes. Sure cars have advantages like more grip in corners and better braking. What they lack is sheer power and agility. Plus cars just take up more room on a racetrack.

I'll have to dredge up the magazine that had the comparo in it. But they pitted a stock ZX-6R vs. stock Corvette Z06, and a moderately modified ZX-10R vs. highly modified Skyline and in both instances the cars got spanked. The magazine had tons of data taken at the track. One statistic I do remember very well from the article was the Slalom speed of the ZX10R, it clocked a 124mph!!! slalom speed, and the Vette and Skyline were in the 70mph range.

Another magazine you might try to find is the "Motorcyclist 2002 GSX-R1000 vs. Z06 Corvette" edition. I used to have it in a stack of older mags but haven't been able to trace it down for a long time now. Suffice to say the GSX-R mopped the floor with the Z06. I remember it could go 0-100-0 quicker than the Z06 could just reach 100mph. It beat the Z06 in every category(skidpad, slalom, 0-60, 1/4 mile, you name it). On certain parts of the track they used, the GSXR was going through corners almost double the speed of the Vette.

Don't get me wrong I love fast cars and think they are awesome. But there sure is something to be said, when you get that "corruption of power" smile on your face as you just handed some dude in his high priced car his butt on a plate, with your modest $10k bike.

Excellent post, I'm with you.

[thatmofo]

Only 170 whp... hmm.

[The Black Knight]

Originally Posted by thatmofo

Only 170 whp... hmm.

HAHA 170hp is nothing to sneeze at man..

[lightspeed]

Originally Posted by RyNo24

I am not surprised at all either. .

I bet it's suprising to the new vette owner who just spent his kids college money on a new shiney mid life crisis car with all the bells and whistles only to get walked on by some kid on a 9 thousand dollar bike.

[RyNo24]

Originally Posted by lightspeed

I bet it's suprising to the new vette owner who just spent his kids college money on a new shiney mid life crisis car with all the bells and whistles only to get walked on by some kid on a 9 thousand dollar bike.

I have done it once on my FZ6. The guy was in a newer lower model Vette, he was so pissed when I beat him on my 90hp $6,000 sport tourer

[Tipys]

I run a 12.8 on my $6,500 with 62HP

[haelo]

Couple years ago I spent less than $5000 to run high 9s on a busa.

[lightspeed]

Originally Posted by haelo

Couple years ago I spent less than $5000 to run high 9s on a busa.

You spent 5k on the bike or 5k in mods on the bike?

[Tipys]

Probly Mods

[Zach929rr]

Why do I feel like $5,000 in mods would get you a lot farther then high 9's

[Tipys]

It does sound a little high but with drag racing it takes alot to drop time its like the 4 second cars there are millions of dollars in them to get 4s

[KennyFish]

I remember seeing this, I had a guy in a base model c6 vette toying with me on my way home sunday and I pulled away from him on my r6, so I could see any liter bike destroying these cars.

[FZRguy]

How 'bout F1 vs. MotoGp lap times? I've never seen a comparison and my gut tells me F1 would win that contest.

[The Black Knight]

Originally Posted by FZRguy

How 'bout F1 vs. MotoGp lap times? I've never seen a comparison and my gut tells me F1 would win that contest.

That kind of depends on the track. From what I gather though, Formula 1's are quicker but one thing that should be noted(and from what I've read) F1 don't run the same configuration as MotoGP bikes do on most tracks. I've seen lap time facts on some forums with links for proof(where the car v. bike issue is hotly debated), that show on some tracks Formula 1 cars are a good 15 seconds faster. And on other tracks maybe 3 to 5 seconds faster. So it just depends, I think if the track was geared more towards a bike's strengths(long straights, quick dog leg corners, or chicanes where a bike uses less track) times would be different but on a track geared more for a F1(with hard braking zones, lots of sections with multiple corners) the cars would come out. It would be hard to design a track that would make both bike and car on equal grounds, because both attack tracks very differently.

They may run the same directions and most of the same track but alot of times for F1 they will add in extra turn sections and so forth. But for sure F1 cars are faster just based on their cornering G forces they can attain. Most F1 cars can register 4g's pretty easy. I remember while watching a MotoGP race one of the commentators said, that most GP bikes can attain 2.5g's but that's about it. Which 2.5g's is nothing to sneeze at and that's very good for a bike. But I know F1 pull higher G-forces.

I do remember an on-line article somewhere(it's been years) that gave the statistics of Micheal Shumacher's Ferrari and Nicky Hayden's RC211V bike around Catalunya if I believe. The F1 beat the bike in all the corners with the exception of 2 corners I think.

One thing I thought was very interesting was the straight away comparo between the two. I remember that Shumacher entered the straight at 120km and Hayden at 85km but by the end of the front straight. Shumacher only attained 310km and Hayden was at 326km, which is the interesting part because the bike had to stop sooner for Turn 1(in essence the bike achieved a higher top speed with actually less track) So what it showed was that while the RC211V entered the front straight slower, it actually caught and passed the Ferrari down the front straight. That's pretty insane and shows just how fast those MotoGP bikes can accelerate.

[The_Jackel]

Rider def. was not telling something right.. Bike was either set up way different at the track, or that bike is making more power.