How do I convince a friend NOT to get a 1000 for a first bike?

[LambeauXLIV]

we're going to look at it sunday

[Spiderman]

my .02: any bike can kill you. The speed going though a corner is based on the rider, not the bike. Any idiot can open up the throttle on a straight road. I've passed liter bikes on my 600, and I've been passed by another 600 with two people on it. It's always the rider, not the bike. Chances of riding a 600 to it's full potential are pretty slim, I'm not even close yet. No matter what bike he gets, respect it, or bad things can happen.

AMEN!
end of discussion.

And while that last statement is true, maybe it's just my perception, but I've always felt that a liter bike can get you into more trouble quicker.

[McVaaahhh]

It is a good deal, but make sure he factors in insurance, especially at 21 years old.

[Big-J]

http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/1029908259.html

this is the bike 01 gsxr 1000

Here is a bike he should be starting on, and its even a better deal.

http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/1062473938.html

[LambeauXLIV]

And while that last statement is true, maybe it's just my perception, but I've always felt that a liter bike can get you into more trouble quicker.

Those are my thoughts exactly

[puckstr]

And while that last statement is true, maybe it's just my perception, but I've always felt that a liter bike can get you into more trouble quicker.

I can get into trouble on a 250......well ..errr..also on a Ruckus


He needs a Honda

[asp_125]

Here is a bike he should be starting on, and its even a better deal.

http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/1062473938.html

Maybe true, but I can almost bet the justification changes from economics to some other excuse like looks and power and wanting something more modern.

[LambeauXLIV]

Maybe true, but I can almost bet the justification changes from economics to some other excuse like looks and power and wanting something more modern.

It's always a balance between the two

[Big-J]

It's always a balance between the two

You sound like the smarter one out of the two of you, but you're making excuses for the guy why he wants to get a liter bike. If you're really trying to convence this dude to start off on a smaller bike, you know all the reasons to justify buying one are all BS.
The whole a good deal thing doesn't fly, getting a 600 would be way cheaper. Those deals are out there, Dana sold his 600rr for 3k not to long ago.

[puckstr]

You sound like the smarter one out of the two of you, but you're making excuses for the guy why he wants to get a liter bike. If you're really trying to convence this dude to start off on a smaller bike, you know all the reasons to justify buying one are all BS.
The whole a good deal thing doesn't fly, getting a 600 would be way cheaper. Those deals are out there, Dana sold his 600rr for 3k not to long ago.

You sure he sold it for $3k ? That is WAY WAY too low for that bike.

[Snowman]

As long as he has a signed organ donor card, then there isn’t a problem.

[Big-J]

You sure he sold it for $3k ? That is WAY WAY too low for that bike.

Im pretty sure, maybe 4. Thats not the point though, fucker. lol
Deals are out thurr is what i was getting at!

[Devaclis]

I did not sell the CBR for $3k

[~Barn~]

Brian: Lady, you want seven bucks for a used Kenny Loggins record? I'll give you five.

Woman: Uh-uh. He autographed it himself...

Brian: Okay, I'll give you four.

[konichd]

I recant my previous account.

He wants a 01 GSXR? Great it weights 4XX, and has about 130 HP at the rear if he's lucky.

A modern 07 newer 600 is at least 40+ pounds lighter and has about 112+ at the rear wheel.

So when you put the HP to weight ratio they are probably the same. So it looks like his finances will make his decision.

The 1K gixxer is going to be 2-3 times the insurance and being that old probably needs 500-1K in maintenance (new tires, brakes, etc.)

In essence this thread is crap, he'll do whatever he wants and pay the price

[Devaclis]

After he gets the bike, give him TFOGs # and tell him to set it on his speed dial.

[YZFRydn]

I've never understood why people think they need a 1000 for their first street bike. I've been riding dirtbikes and streetbikes for a long time and when I decided it was time to buy a bike I didn't even contemplate for a second to buy a 1000. Riding on the street is a whole different dance than riding on the track. Not to mention a 600 is lighter and more fun to me personally in the canyons. Ask him where he plans on using all that power in that bike.

[Sean]

So when you put the HP to weight ratio they are probably the same...

The 1K gixxer is going to be 2-3 times the insurance and being that old probably needs 500-1K in maintenance (new tires, brakes, etc.)

+1

It's hard to tell much from the pics, but be critical about it's condition. On CL it looks like crap, but my point is not to sway away from looking at it, just to make sure your friend weighs in all of the factors. Make sure you and your friend look at the bike objectively and consider the additional costs that might cost extra cash (as said above). Like tires brake pads, engine work etc. You may find it more beneficial to get a newer bike (600 or other). 24,000 miles is a fair amount, especially if the bike hasn't been properly maintained. Cheapest bike isn't always the cheapest answer.

[LambeauXLIV]

I'm fairly convinced that the bike won't be nice...but I told my friend I'd go with him to look at it

[Nick_Ninja]

I'm fairly convinced that the bike won't be nice...but I told my friend I'd go with him to look at it

So you're coming from Pueblo to Erie to look at that bike?

[XJ600s]

I'm in boulder and am more than willing to head out there and look at it as well. doubt your friend would listen to me, but sometimes having an unattached third party provide feedback on the condition might be of use. let me know.

[LambeauXLIV]

I'm going up to my parents house this weekend in Fort Collins, so it's on the way
I have no problems assessing the condition of the bike, but thanks

[Ceez]

Lets get a group ride and all go look at it!

[YZFRydn]

Lets get a group ride and all go look at it!

Sounds good.