A few questions

[AOK303]

Im still feeling my bike out which is a stock 1000rr and would like some helpful imput havent ridden in about 10 years and i did take a MSF course but a 200cc bike in a small area is nothing like my bike on the street

1) maybe it just the way i drive a car, i do alot of scca and road rally runs that i take turns i guess aggressively example on a 45mph zone i take it going40 to 45 but on my bike i find my self turning at 20 is that slow

2) starting from from a stop easing off the cluch i feel like im crawling then quickly speeding to make up for it causeing a lil jumpyness when i lay off the throttle and notice i start moving at like 2000rpm

3) yes i read some of the other post but most of them were on 600cc where are most of the 1000cc cruising at in the rpm and gear someone told me to ride in the power band about 7000rpm which means im in 3rd gear on i25 going 75 dosent that just kill the gas mileage

Thanks in advance for the imput hoping i can come to a noob ride and get some pointers i do have about 500 miles on my bike and starting to get in to the flow just rather not have bad habits to break

[brennahm]

1) If you're taking a corner that's advised at 45mph at 20...yeah, you need to learn a lot. Don't push it, figure out how to ride. Go to the track. Follow people.

2) You may have a worn out clutch. Or you may not be used to a bike. You can slip a bike clutch a lot more than a car clutch.

3) You seem to be confused on cruising in canyons vs cruising on the slab. Two very different things.

[AOK303]

its not a 45mph turn its more of turning off a street where its 45mph for the i25 to 6th ave west turn i can take it faster then posted

and not use to clutch i think is more the issue for it grabs and goes guess i just dont know where to begin rpm wise to really leave from a stop so i feel like im snail releasing then launching...

[tecknojoe]

I cruise in super low RPMs on powerfull bikes. my r6 i usually stay around 5. I don't need to be in the powerband at all times, there's no reason for it.

[Vellos]

Sounds like you need to use your clutch. How fast are you going in the canyons? If you want to ride 1 on 1 with me and tell me what feels wrong I can explain the basics.

Also taking a 45 mph turn at 40 is not aggressive. Is there a typo?

[OUTLAWD]

FWIW, around town and in the city, I ride like a bitch. I go through intersections slow, because thats where most of the oil/shit sits, plus the roads are normally choppy...

but in the canyons, depending on your comfort level, road conditions, etc.,a general rule of thumb I use is double the "advised" speed of a turn should be no problem on any bike

with a 1000cc...keeping it in the powerband will get you into trouble, often.

[Swift]

1) This is really you just getting comfortable with your bike. It took me about 2-3 weeks to get used to pushing it on the street. Every bike is different so don't push yourself too fast if you aren't ready.

2) Because the bike has a wet clutch, its going to be very different from that of a car. Slip it out slow and steady while keeping the power smooth and you'll start to get used to your bike's engine. Also take into consideration your bike really isn't a low end monster like a twin is so it might take a little more goose off the line than you're used to.

3) I cruise at around 3700rpm at 75 in 6th gear. Then again, my gears and power band are completely different from yours since mine maxes at 120 and is a boxer twin. If your redline is something like 14K or whatever then cruising around town in the sweet spot isn't going to kill your gas mileage. By keeping it in the sweet spot you leave yourself less of a chance of not having the power when some idiot decides to pull a dumbshit near you.


My suggestion is spend a shit load of time going slow in a parking lot on your bike. Slow speed turns, slow speed riding in circles, etc. If you can control your bike at slow speed on a dime then you'll pick up the rest very quickly. Everyone starts in the basement and works their way up the ladder. The ones that try to take short cuts are the ones that get hurt or end up on the news.

[AOK303]

40 in a 45 on a flat 90 turn in traffic is aggressive per correct driving and caution regulations. and i agree i don't deem it i can turn it with my knee but just wanted to point out what Ive been use too car to bike so maybe thats why i feel uneasy.

i will admit i took MSF class didnt miss any on the test, have a week and a half on my 1000rr last time i rode beside my 49cc honda metro was in 01 and i rode for only one season on a duck 749 and dont remember any real issue but i could just be screwed up for everyone one keeps saying respect the 1000 and maybe im over respecting it. i do want to get some rides in with more experiance riders to get some tips and pointers im not afraid to admit im a lil lost on if im over babying it or thats just the way it is

also to point out my bike only has 3000 miles so its only had one service which i was told next it 4000 and its just barley in the outter part of the break in point

and thanks for all the info i spent a cupple hours trying to find old post befor posting this up i too hate over kill posting but didnt really see answers that directly would answer

[Vellos]

40 in a 45 on a flat 90 turn in traffic is aggressive per correct driving and caution regulations.

What does the yellow sign say? 20 or 25? There will never be a turn that sharp in a 45mph zone without a suggested speed warning. If the zone is 45, but turn is suggested 25, then 40 is good, 20 is .

500 miles is broken in, you're fine there.

Would you be willing to meet me so you can show me what's going on?

[Vellos]

Wait you're saying the turn is wide enough that it doesn't need a sign in a 45 mph zone, and you do it at 40? But on a bike you're doing it at 20? Are you not the type of person that goes over the speed limit? And your past motorcycle experience was a Honda Metro 10 years ago and how many miles on the Ducati?

[OUTLAWD]

500 miles is broken in, you're fine there.

maybe per the manual, depending on the bike...my triumph felt smoother and faster until the ~15k mark...then it was "broken in"

[usmcab35]

i fucking confused now, i dont know if you are taking a 45 turn at 20 or a 40 turn at 45 aaarrrrhhhh... do what is comfortable for you and you will naturally push is more and more with the more miles you get under your belt. also part of the speed in a turn depends on the line you take into the turn... try and get out on a ride with everyone, you will learn alot pretty quick, imo

[AOK303]

Wait you're saying the turn is wide enough that it doesn't need a sign in a 45 mph zone, and you do it at 40? But on a bike you're doing it at 20? Are you not the type of person that goes over the speed limit? And your past motorcycle experience was a Honda Metro 10 years ago and how many miles on the Ducati?

i have only done the run from Morrison to evergreen which is the closet to canyon run rest has been all street riding
I take union and 6 to i25 to park meadows area so i put a good number of miles each ride beside the smaller trips

I meant more of turning off a main street to a side street where no turn lane is there for you, when a sign is there i haven't had any issues
and yeah i would like to meet up with anyone willing to get some better pointers sadly i get one weekend day a month off other wise i have week days off

did about 2000 miles on the duck and 3000 and the Hped had the hped was in 05 and the duck was 01

and its not a 45mph posted Turn in question its what speed turing from a 45mph zone to another street with no turn lane more or less

[asp_125]

1) 2000miles on a Duc 10 years ago? You're still a noob, on a liter bike. Forget about cornering speed, you go around an intersection at whatever speed YOU feel is comfortable. Trying to push too much too soon is going to lead to bad habits or worse. Work on smooth turns and look through the corners, speed will come.

2) Work on clutch work, sounds like you're not yet familiar with the 1000RR's friction zone. Stopping and starting on an uphill ramp or street is the quickest way to learn smooth clutch control.

3) A liter bike has lots of torque across the rpm range, you don't need to ride it like a 600 or smaller bike and constantly be right in the sweet spot. Just don't be way low or way high in any gear.

[Vellos]

Take it easy around town, but you're not going to improve much at cornering if you don't go into the canyons/track.

Send me a PM for when you'd like to meet. I'm sure I can help you understand some of the things you're not feeling comfortable with.

[usmcab35]

Take it easy around town, but you're not going to improve much at cornering if you don't go into the canyons/track.

Send me a PM for when you'd like to meet. I'm sure I can help you understand some of the things you're not feeling comfortable with.

come out on sat with all of us????

[Vellos]

Uhhh no I wouldn't advise that.

[usmcab35]

Uhhh no I wouldn't advise that.

haha i was just kidding....

[Vellos]

haha i was just kidding....

[jbnwc]

If you really want to learn to ride better do this:

1 - Sell the 1000(preferably before you wreck it) and get a 650 or smaller to learn on and build some confidence.
2 - Don't try to go fast on the streets - go to a track. You'll learn more in one day on the track than years on the street.

[UglyDogRacing]

Pick up these and read -

http://www.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-T.../dp/1893618072

http://www.amazon.com/Twist-Wrist-Ba...ref=pd_sim_b_2

http://www.amazon.com/Smooth-Riding-...4615339&sr=1-1

[Mother Goose]

1) From what I've read, you're trying to do 45mph turning in an intersection. First, you don't need to be going that fast on a 90 degree turn (example: from north on Sheridan to west on Alameda). That's just stupid, in a car or on a bike. Smooth stuff like north bound I-25 to west bound 6th Ave, sure, have some fun, and be smooth on the throttle. Also, go out to the track, it will get you used to your bike and what it can do. Super Street w/ the MRA is a great way to get some instruction and have some fun on the track.

2) Sounds like you just need o get used to your bike. My R1 isn't hard to get off (giggity) the line, just practice in an empty parking lot until you get the hang of it. Also make sure your clutch cable is adjusted correctly.

3) On a 1000, you don't need to be screaming down I-70 in 3rd gear. People will think you don't know how to shift. On the highway, I'm in 6th gear w/ no problems passing anyone. Hell, even on my commute, I'm in 5th gear in a 35 mph zone (going 40-45). It's annoying to everyone around you if you're screaming at 8-10k and there isn't a need for it if you're just cruising along.

Come out to bike night tonight and meet some of us. We're always glad to help out the n00bs.

[AOK303]

Sounds like I just need to get out and ride with some of you guys to get some pointers I haven't had any trouble stopping or going on hills or lights just feel like I'm slow, turning I know I need some pointers I can't do a ride this week but next Thursday or Friday I'll try to get a ride in with one of you guys

And yes I'm still a noob haha not afraid to admit it

[AOK303]

Bike night off 6 n kippling right at hooters