To the asshat who ran from the cops today...

[Wrider]

Nah man no defense of anyone. More annoyance of people acting like the upright white knight morality keepers of the interwebs.

Think for yourself. Question aurhority.

Ah ok cool.

Now to play devil's advocate again in reference to the questioning part... Why?

[CaneZach]

[asp_125]

This him?

[CaptGoodvibes]

Hahaha!!!!!

[Ted]

+1

Now, there is something here that hasn't been said: This makes Vellos look bad and I would simply like to offer my testimony to Vellos' abilities. I have ridden with the guy a lot, and he is a much better group leader than I. He always knows where he's going, and on official, posted rides is very responsible. Please don't let other's actions influence his reputation.

That's my opinion. I guess if you have to, feel free to flame, but it seems reasonable to me.

+1000.

[Nick_Ninja]

Crybabies ...

[Finklestein87]

To further stir the pot. I cant believe the infatuation some of you have with this "asshat"

[Zach929rr]

I prefer straw hats for my ass.

[WolFeYeZ]

To further stir the pot. I cant believe the infatuation some of you have with this "asshat"

And its funny, all of the people posting that are "infatuated" and furious with it are not the ones that got pulled over.

[Vellos]

Yeah, I'm not upset about the situation of being pulled over. Nor was I going to give the officer any information about Luna to get him in trouble. But I would like to never see Lunasgixxer or Thankgod on any of the group rides that I'll be posting in the future.

Luna you were riding illegally in many forms, and running from the cops makes all sport bikes look bad to the LEO. While you weren't doing anything wreckless beforehand, the cop that was trying to pull you over damn near hit Adam and Brad. It's irresponsible of you for putting our group in danger like that.

Thankgod you knew about all of this, but neglected to tell anyone. I'm sure you didn't think anything would come of it, but you do a lot of stupid things regardless. For example when the cop had his lights on behind us you were tapping your helmet to indicate "police", or when the second cop at Palmer Lake said they were looking for a bike without plates you said "we saw some of those". You are also always too close to other members of the group and are clearly riding outside of your skill level.

That is all.

[JustSomeDude]

And its funny, all of the people posting that are infatuated and furious with it are not the ones that got pulled over.

I don't think anyone is "infatuated" as you would describe them, rather, I think some folks are just frustrated with the response of "the club". While not an avid club rider, I have seen the CSC work very hard over the years to promote an image of responsible and safe motorcycle riding - whether it is on the street or the track. As a result, the club has gotten some notable sponsors for group events (tech days, St. Patty's Day Parade, etc.), and continues to volunteer time and man power to the Colorado motorcycle community whenever it can.

Group rides (especially "noob" rides) are where the mentality and attitude of the club is on full display, not only to "noob" riders, but the general public. And the general public is far more likely to notice an indiscretion of one man in a pack of a few dozen riders, than a lone wolf making a fool out of himself on some back road. In such a large group setting, one guy acting foolish can tarnish the image of the entire club.

Now follow it all up with club members posting their opinions here on the official CSC forum, only to be ridiculed by fellow club members. What's the point of having a club, rules, or any kind of riding etiquette, when... quite frankly... it's clear that nobody gives a shit? This guy will change his handle, and likely end up riding with most of you again in the future without any of you knowing, mainly because he knows ya'll just don't care... And that he's not going to be held accountable for his actions.

He has made blatant threats to defame and tarnish the image of the CSC, and the best anyone can do is call other people "snitches", label them as "infatuated", or make fun of them for being the "moral police."

Good luck finding people to ride with you, or join/defend the club, with that kind of attitude.

[TinkerinWstuff]

this is the best drama I've seen here since signing up.

carry on

[Swift]

I hope there's something to be gained from all of this. For instance, putting in the required read items prior to becoming a full member on the board not to pull this kind of bullshit. You would think it would be common sense, but apparently some people just lack the mental capacity to understand humanity 101.

Thankgod, I was cool with you when I met you at the St. Patricks day parade, but your actions and posts since then have shown your true colors. If you ever happen to show up to another group ride that I'm apart of, I'll make it abundantly clear when I leave that you are the reason I didn't stick around for fear of my own safety.

[Darth Do'Urden]

this is the best drama I've seen here since signing up.

carry on

My wife and I are a few episodes into season 3 now...this made me laugh hard. Well played, sir.

[TinkerinWstuff]

My wife and I are a few episodes into season 3 now...this made me laugh hard. Well played, sir.

I thought season 3 was good but the wife doesn't have the stomach for it. I've been going through motorcycle club drama withdrawls. Compounded by the news that Days of our Lives has now been canceled too.

Thanks for filling the void CSC.

[60pan]

Are you shitting me?? Days is cancelled??
This is the end of the world

[bornwildnfree]

Nah man no defense of anyone. More annoyance of people acting like the upright white knight morality keepers of the interwebs.

Think for yourself. Question aurhority.

If he was out on a random canyon run, no worries, this post wouldn't have happened, but as JustSomeDude so eloquently put it, this was a club ride that Jason and others had put a lot of hard work into and it puts a bad light on sportbike riders and on the CSC. That's what I take exception too. I really want to thank Vellos for keeping his head and keeping his group together.

[Darth Do'Urden]

I thought season 3 was good but the wife doesn't have the stomach for it.

Heheh...not my wife. She'd watch the whole third season in a day if I let her...friggin' addict. =P

[TinkerinWstuff]

I hope there's something to be gained from all of this. For instance, putting in the required read items prior to becoming a full member on the board not to pull this kind of bullshit. You would think it would be common sense, but apparently some people just lack the mental capacity to understand humanity 101.

I think somewhere in the required reading materials when obtaining a drivers license it says something about not running from the cops. And yet it doesn't stop people.

[TinkerinWstuff]

Are you shitting me?? Days is cancelled??
This is the end of the world

the end of the world was yesterday

didn't you drink the koolaid?

[The Black Knight]

I thought season 3 was good but the wife doesn't have the stomach for it. I've been going through motorcycle club drama withdrawls. Compounded by the news that Days of our Lives has now been canceled too.

Thanks for filling the void CSC.

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[Swift]

I think somewhere in the required reading materials when obtaining a drivers license it says something about not running from the cops. And yet it doesn't stop people.

Ain't that the truth. I guess they need to put in the fine print that eating a bowl of cereal while driving is considered distracted/dangerous too.

[Ghost]

I don't think anyone is "infatuated" as you would describe them, rather, I think some folks are just frustrated with the response of "the club". While not an avid club rider, I have seen the CSC work very hard over the years to promote an image of responsible and safe motorcycle riding - whether it is on the street or the track. As a result, the club has gotten some notable sponsors for group events (tech days, St. Patty's Day Parade, etc.), and continues to volunteer time and man power to the Colorado motorcycle community whenever it can.

Group rides (especially "noob" rides) are where the mentality and attitude of the club is on full display, not only to "noob" riders, but the general public. And the general public is far more likely to notice an indiscretion of one man in a pack of a few dozen riders, than a lone wolf making a fool out of himself on some back road. In such a large group setting, one guy acting foolish can tarnish the image of the entire club.

Now follow it all up with club members posting their opinions here on the official CSC forum, only to be ridiculed by fellow club members. What's the point of having a club, rules, or any kind of riding etiquette, when... quite frankly... it's clear that nobody gives a shit? This guy will change his handle, and likely end up riding with most of you again in the future without any of you knowing, mainly because he knows ya'll just don't care... And that he's not going to be held accountable for his actions.

He has made blatant threats to defame and tarnish the image of the CSC, and the best anyone can do is call other people "snitches", label them as "infatuated", or make fun of them for being the "moral police."

Good luck finding people to ride with you, or join/defend the club, with that kind of attitude.

Couldn't have said it better, and yet, again, the majority of replies are dismissive at best, mocking or derogatory at worst.

The incident itself was bad enough, but the general attitude of indifference to mockery really undermines any attempt to promote the various rules the club claims to abide by in order to keep us from looking like the jerks most of the world--and especially cops--already assumes we are.

[Jason ON]

Guess I should've walked the line of bikes before we all took off. That could've saved that group a ton of grief. Lesson learned, I will do that from now on during large rides.

I didn't think that would need to happen, but maybe I expected adults to show up to CSC rides/events.

We had the map from Jason, but it didn't have distances on it so he thought he had missed the exit. Spooph got volunteered by me at the when we got to Moco to lead a ride so not really his fault.

Sorry about that. That's the kind of feedback I need for future rides of this scope.

My bad my plate flew off Friday. Shit happens crying like a bunch of little 2nd grade girls damn Get over it grown ass men n women tryin to snitch. My group getsmy apology and the snitches get a fuck you

If your plate flew off on Friday, then you should have skipped the ride. It's that simple. Like others have said, if you were current on your registration and license then there was nothing to worry about (assuming you have no warrants or anything out there).

You should apologize to your group -- heck, you should apologize to the entirety of CSC for taking away our hard earned community friendly reputation. You single-handedly gave CSC and sportbike riders a bad name with the Trooper.

U know we could handle all this without words just saying. Ha get over it.

I'll be at the Bike Night at Hooters on Wednesday if you need to talk about this in person.

Then why would you run? It's a simple traffic violation that the officer could have checked on, assuming you had your current registration card. No hostility and no judging. I'm just curious.

What he said.

Ridin dirty. Its on me I ran oh well like I said instead of being n internet soldier say shit to my face. Travis

Hooters. Oh, and ride. That should give you 3 days to get new plates.

I followed the directions given to us perfectly. Unfortunately the directions I was handed were wrong, and had us looking for restaurants on Chapel Hill Dr. instead of a few blocks down.

Sorry for the confusion, man.

+1000.

Yeah, I'm not upset about the situation of being pulled over. Nor was I going to give the officer any information about Luna to get him in trouble. But I would like to never see Lunasgixxer or Thankgod on any of the group rides that I'll be posting in the future.

Luna you were riding illegally in many forms, and running from the cops makes all sport bikes look bad to the LEO. While you weren't doing anything wreckless beforehand, the cop that was trying to pull you over damn near hit Adam and Brad. It's irresponsible of you for putting our group in danger like that.

Thankgod you knew about all of this, but neglected to tell anyone. I'm sure you didn't think anything would come of it, but you do a lot of stupid things regardless. For example when the cop had his lights on behind us you were tapping your helmet to indicate "police", or when the second cop at Palmer Lake said they were looking for a bike without plates you said "we saw some of those". You are also always too close to other members of the group and are clearly riding outside of your skill level.

That is all.

If he was out on a random canyon run, no worries, this post wouldn't have happened, but as JustSomeDude so eloquently put it, this was a club ride that Jason and others had put a lot of hard work into and it puts a bad light on sportbike riders and on the CSC. That's what I take exception too. I really want to thank Vellos for keeping his head and keeping his group together.