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    Quote Originally Posted by MetaLord 9 View Post
    When you start your riding clinic and teach CaneZach how to ride, please at least put it on YouTube
    I'm sorry if it came off I was trying to be a teacher. I disagreed with his statement, nothing against him personally, and provided the tools I myself am using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vellos View Post
    When you go to the track for the first time please post that on YouTube as well. And since you already know how to ride you don't need an instructor there, right?
    Where is that coming from? How many times have I said I'm a noob? How many times have others reiterated that fact?

    Its old man.
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    Re: Wanted: Experienced Rider to Learn From

    My advice; start slow, stay in the back of the group and find a rider slightly faster than you to follow. Focus on your technique and talk to riders at the stops. Have fun but also take it seriously if you want to improve.

    I followed Bueller and Arley for a while when I moved out here 7 years ago, and I still do. ;-). Always trying to improve!
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    Re: Wanted: Experienced Rider to Learn From

    Quote Originally Posted by Bugkiller1 View Post
    My advice; start slow, stay in the back of the group and find a rider slightly faster than you to follow. Focus on your technique and talk to riders at the stops. Have fun but also take it seriously if you want to improve.

    I followed Bueller and Arley for a while when I moved out here 7 years ago, and I still do. ;-). Always trying to improve!
    Bugkiller, did you bring a hypermotard and a supermoto to IMI last fall?
    There's a guy that used to visit that place (I can't remember his name) who helped me out a ton when I first got to Colorado last year.
    Doc, riding IS my physical therapy.


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    Re: Wanted: Experienced Rider to Learn From

    Nope. Had my R1 up there a couple of times, that's it.
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    Re: Wanted: Experienced Rider to Learn From

    Ok. Gotta find this guy and let him know I'm alive .
    Doc, riding IS my physical therapy.


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    Re: Wanted: Experienced Rider to Learn From

    Quote Originally Posted by Finklestein87 View Post
    How many times have I said I'm a noob? How many times have others reiterated that fact?
    This is why you shouldn't have told someone who isn't new to riding that they aren't qualified to give advice - in the dickest way possible. And I'm a pretty nice fella, but you sir need to get over yourself before you earn any respect.
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    Re: Wanted: Experienced Rider to Learn From

    Quote Originally Posted by Bueller View Post
    Holy crap, that's him!


    Quote Originally Posted by Vellos View Post
    This is why you shouldn't have told someone who isn't new to riding that they aren't qualified to give advice - in the dickest way possible. And I'm a pretty nice fella, but you sir need to get over yourself before you earn any respect.
    Alright, drop it.
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    Re: Wanted: Experienced Rider to Learn From

    Quote Originally Posted by Bueller View Post

    ^^

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    Re: Wanted: Experienced Rider to Learn From

    Quote Originally Posted by duelist13 View Post
    Alright, drop it.


    When are we going to dick around on your mini? Got a MRI appointment tomorrow for my back, but I'm rather free this weekend.
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    Re: Wanted: Experienced Rider to Learn From

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAWD View Post
    ^^
    My first real track friend.

    My second real track ene-err friend was Bueller . Then Matty, then ponytail guy. Darn, I was getting pretty fast before I ate dirt and crushed my shoulder!

    Can't wait to get out there again New year, new mindset.
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    Re: Wanted: Experienced Rider to Learn From

    Quote Originally Posted by Vellos View Post


    When are we going to dick around on your mini? Got a MRI appointment tomorrow for my back, but I'm rather free this weekend.
    Oh man that's cute. I think we're good for Saturday, pending UHaul trailer rental heh.
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    Vellos is right tho...he's sweeter than a basket of kittens!
    "When you on the track, you have to be enjoying the moment, you have to be flowing, "Be water, My Friend". You try to be the fastest, and it seems a little beet estupid, 20 riders making the same way, lap by lap, but this simple thing: is very complicated." #99

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    Re: Wanted: Experienced Rider to Learn From

    Quote Originally Posted by thankgod View Post
    Vellos is right tho...he's sweeter than a basket of kittens!
    Those are pretty tasty, aren't they?
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    Delish!

    Quote Originally Posted by duelist13 View Post
    Those are pretty tasty, aren't they?
    "When you on the track, you have to be enjoying the moment, you have to be flowing, "Be water, My Friend". You try to be the fastest, and it seems a little beet estupid, 20 riders making the same way, lap by lap, but this simple thing: is very complicated." #99

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    <~~~~~~ Got the name for a reason, but as I progressed it was from riding with and learning from the more experienced riders here. That doesn't necessarily mean the fastest riders. Some are MRA guys, some are just long time street guys, but all have a wealth of experience and are smart when they ride. Real life experience, as Bueller said, is where you learn. Watching videos and reading books didn't do anything for me. Having someone follow me and then allowing me to follow them at my pace made for large gains in my abilities.
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    Re: Experience Rider

    Quote Originally Posted by brennahm View Post
    ^+1

    Besides, you shouldn't be going fast enough on the streets (especially with a noob) where lines and braking points make a difference.
    Lines and braking points ALWAYS make a difference (between staying in your lane or heading into a tree). The lines and braking points may be different depending on speed and/or bike, but they're still important.
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    Re: Wanted: Experienced Rider to Learn From

    I concur fully with Bueller (imagine that!) on that one. While it's good to read all the books and watch all the videos you can, nothing beats real world experience on as wide a variety of roads and in as wide a variety of road and weather conditions as possible. Preferrably with an experienced rider to help. While trackday schools DO help, realize that they are TRACK oriented, and generally don't deal with broken/sandy/gravelly/dusty road conditions, decreasing-radius blind corners, rain, snow, blind corners, wild game, idiots in your lane, or any combination of the above. Yes, you do learn bike positioning, body positioning, lines, braking points, etc., but it is in an artificial environment, much easier than the street environment. While classes are always good, they often give a false sense of superiority. For the street, there's no substitute for experience.
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    Re: Experience Rider

    Quote Originally Posted by duelist13 View Post
    then ponytail guy.
    Can't wait to get out there again New year, new mindset.
    ahh the pony tail boys...good to see you getting back out there man

    Quote Originally Posted by CYCLE_MONKEY View Post
    Lines and braking points ALWAYS make a difference (between staying in your lane or heading into a tree).
    if you use your brakes on the street to that extent...you should probably get to the track...just saying...

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    Re: Wanted: Experienced Rider to Learn From

    ^My point exactly. If someone who's a "noob" wants to learn canyons and they're having to pay attention to braking points then 1. they're over their head and 2. they're using the throttle in the straights and the kickstand in the corners (I'm an expert on this...don't argue).

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    Re: Experience Rider

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    A graduate of the Vellos school of trollin'
    Oh lawds just saw that. Got a genuine laugh out of that!
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