Rider Mentoring

[Bueller]

There has been mention in a number threads of having experienced riders pair up with new or new to canyon riders for some one on one instruction time and riding evaluation.
This would be a good place to ask for and offer the help.
I think posting an open invite will just result in a group ride that will not offer any real quality help.

I propose that if you are looking for some help and your ego isn't too large, you can post up here and then if you aren't a total ass on here, and some one is willing to spend some time with you they can PM you and set up a meeting.

I would suggest posting times you would be available for 2-3 hours and then the mentors can see what fits into their schedules.

I hate to be the one who pushes the track thing because I know both worlds and some people have no interest or are intimated by the thought or riding track but I will throw that out here also. If you would like to visit IMI and really learn how to make your bike go around corners it will cost you all of $35 and no real bike prep. And they have fewer rules for rider gear than some of the recent rides posted here.

I don't know how to determine if those offering help are actually qualified per say to do so. I am too hoping this does not turn into noob helping noob.
Everyone is so sensitive to their noobness that they get all pissy if it is questioned.

I am thinking more on the lines of you should have been riding for a minimum of 4-5 years and be one of "those guys or gals" that has a reputation for quick. Quick is different from fast.

[Tylar]

[BC14]

I concur. I hope this turns into a good thing for those that want to partake.

[asp_125]

+1 I hope it doesn't turn into: "knee dragging in Boulder Canyon 101". This won't make you instantly keep up with the really good fast riders, this will give you the concepts and techniques to let you progress safely towards being a good safe rider. So if your ego will let you ride at the posted limit sometimes, speak up.

[CYCLE_MONKEY]

+1 I hope it doesn't turn into: "knee dragging in Boulder Canyon 101".

Yeah, I find 7 is SO much better for that.......... (Kidding).

I think Bueller has a good idea here, and share your concern Jeff. But, I think smaller groups attract less attention from Johnny Law, and have less tendency to get out of hand due to their smaller size. I have a friend here who's getting back into riding that I've been taking around, showing him new roads, and it's been a lot of fun and I think he's doing very well and learning a lot. Not only that, he's a great guy and it's been a lot of fun getting to know a new friend better.

Like I've said, I don't have a problem with n00bs per se, I just would rather choose A n00b or 2 I TRUST to take out instead of a large uncontrolled group.

I hope people take advantage of this idea.

[Drift]

Like I've said, I don't have a problem with n00bs per se, I just would rather choose a n00b or two I TRUST to take out instead of a large uncontrolled group.

I hope people take advantage of this idea.

+1

[madvlad]

I'm liking this very mucho

[TransNone13]

Bueller, just have volunteers post their experience in a predetermined format and let those looking for help choose!

[Bueller]

Bueller, just have volunteers post their experience in a predetermined format and let those looking for help choose!

While some people have endless patients that would be fine, I am not such a person so while I would be willing to choose a student out of a pool I am not inclined to have them choose me.

Of course if someone want's to be on such a list they are welcome to do so.

[AOK303]

Ehhh I'm a Noob and I did get/seek help. i've seen too many car accidents over the years. I still take noobs out in my car to show how the circit should be run, show them how to pick, run or hold lines car is more forgiving then a bike

Think this is a great idea

[TransNone13]

Well, you don't have to accept them. Just trying to be helpful, I personally don't know the area well enough.

[WolFeYeZ]

I would enjoy riding one on one with a more experienced rider To attempt to help out my ability. Great idea bueller

[CaptGoodvibes]

When I first started riding here in Colorado, canyons were a mysterious beast. Jeff(asp125) was my first and only mentor and he really helped me with the fundamentals and my confidence. But now he has a girlfriend

I need help learning the capabilities of my bike in terms of lean and stability. Every time I'm in too hot, I pray and ride it out but I'd rather do it with resolve and knowledge I'm not about to die. Really, I want to be able to ride a quicker pace without thinking I have to hang off the bike all the time to make it through corners. I'm thinking about Bueller's video when I say this.

I'll be glad to post up a time I need mentoring next Thursday or Friday but I won't know for a couple days.

[50sGrl]

Jeff(asp125) was my first and only mentor and he really helped me with the fundamentals and my confidence. But now he has a girlfriend

I'm fairly certain this hasn't hindered his various abilities in any way.

[asp_125]

I'm fairly certain this hasn't hindered his various abilities in any way.

..That's what she said.

[BC14]

..That's what she said.

[CaptGoodvibes]

I'm fairly certain this hasn't hindered his various abilities in any way.

He seems to be fully booked nowadays unlike in years past. No worries. His priorities are sound

[mtnairlover]

I propose that if you are looking for some help and your ego isn't too large, you can post up here and then if you aren't a total ass on here, and some one is willing to spend some time with you they can PM you and set up a meeting.

I would suggest posting times you would be available for 2-3 hours and then the mentors can see what fits into their schedules.

Everyone is so sensitive to their noobness that they get all pissy if it is questioned.

I am thinking more on the lines of you should have been riding for a minimum of 4-5 years and be one of "those guys or gals" that has a reputation for quick. Quick is different from fast.

I like this idea, Bueller!

I also like the idea that someone else posted. That is...posting up your years of experience, etc. This would be for all to see and it would weed out the noob teaching noob idea. Someone can always call BS when those who post their experience do it in a public format.

With that said, I would like to suggest that a sticky get posted with names of those who are willing to mentor new(er) riders. The sticky and mentor names should include the following:

Year started riding:
Male/female: this may need to remain unspoken or included in a PM, but the alternative is getting to the meeting spot and the noob realizes he's being taught by a woman and his ego ends up getting in his way of taking on some good advice
Dirt experienced?
Track experienced?
Mountain road experienced?

Just my .02

I'm just not sure how the new(er) rider could be assured that they are riding with someone who has more than 4 years experience, or that this person is regarded as a good rider and not an ass.

[Drift]

...Just my .02

I'm just not sure how the new(er) rider could be assured that they are riding with someone who has more than 4 years experience, or that this person is regarded as a good rider and not an ass...

As far as I know...I'm only considered an ass at my workplace?!?

[daemon]

or that this person is regarded as a good rider and not an ass.

Hey Cathy....Are you talking about me again....LOL

Great idea Bueller.
Far beyond the reach of something i would imagine you volunteering for.
While i consider myself a "fair" rider.
I still take scrutiny and constructive criticism from fellow riders.
So i guess i am on both sides of this one.
I would like to help some of the lesser experienced riders while getting in some more "do as i do" with better riders...

[mtnairlover]

The track is an additional learning tool not a substitute, and not required. We (track riders) are offering some help in this area if someone is interested.

There have been several posts from people indicating a desire for help and hopefully people are responding to these through PM's. I have contacted on of these peeps and am setting up something for this weekend.

Woohoo!

And I remember seeing you at IMI about 5 years ago when I was so very newbish. I still appreciate the advice given.

Hey Cathy....Are you talking about me again....LOL

Ha, ha...nope.

I too, still look for advice and welcome it. Now my learning is in dealing with my extra weight and having to figure out how aggressive I can be without feeling like I'm making my bike slide out from under me. I used to take on mountain corners with ease and almost no fear...these days, I've backed off and feel strange with leaning over. I'm not sure if it is my weight, but I just don't feel the tires are gripping like they used to (although, I don't have the same tires either).

Anyhoo, looks like this thread is filling its purpose.

[FZRguy]

+1 on IMI. I'm going tomorrow, July 11.

http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forum...ad.php?t=40954

[Clovis]

Wingman needed, inquire within.

[TransNone13]

Wingman needed, inquire within.

Inquiring...