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    Oh i just remembered he saw me leave the parking lot on the ninja and he had noted the color of my gear on his report

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    Nice one Grim!

    ...I always debated whether a GoPro was more likely to help, or harm...Despite this example, I'm still not sure...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Nice one Grim!

    ...I always debated whether a GoPro was more likely to help, or harm...Despite this example, I'm still not sure...
    Despite overwhelming evidence in the contrary to my opinion, I will continue to hold it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach929rr View Post
    Despite overwhelming evidence in the contrary to my opinion, I will continue to hold it.

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    The point is, I think Grim won this one only because the court accepted the photos as evidence, but did not require or demand the entire video be produced and played.

    I think it worked for Grim because of the way that he set it up and the fact that the court didn't think to press the issue.

    Had they confiscated his GoPro, and found anything else on it that was illegal then he'd likely have faced those charges as well.

    So, again, in this particular example it worked, and good for Grim.

    However, I'm not sure I want to bring along a video record of everything done on a bike that could implicate myself or others--especially in a world where more and more "black box" ECU data is being used against the owner of the vehicle.

    I think, in this case, Grim got lucky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    The point is, I think Grim won this one only because the court accepted the photos as evidence, but did not require or demand the entire video be produced and played.

    I think it worked for Grim because of the way that he set it up and the fact that the court didn't think to press the issue.
    Wrong, At no point did i say i was recording video.

    I told the court my GoPro was taking simultaneous pictures.

    With this being said the court could not press anything further and the gopro was not present at the hearing just pictures printed on a piece of paper outlining the lines in the road and the position of the sheriff's vehicle when it was visible.

    I didn't exactly go into this dispute blind folks i did my homework.

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    Incompetant deputy's name in case I run into him?
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    That and I can't see them really pressing on a traffic ticket.

    Nice job Grim, glad it worked out for you.

    I wouldn't go so far as to say the Sheriff was lying but rather mistaken. I wish I had my GoPro turned on for the last ticket I got. I had it, but sitting on my passenger seat.

    Quote Originally Posted by grim View Post
    Wrong, At no point did i say i was recording video.

    I told the court my GoPro was taking simultaneous pictures.

    With this being said the court could not press anything further and the gopro was not present at the hearing just pictures printed on a piece of paper outlining the lines in the road and the position of the sheriff's vehicle when it was visible.

    I didn't exactly go into this dispute blind folks i did my homework.
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    That does it, I'm getting a camera.

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    awesome.

    Now the bad news, this police officer is gonna be mad and take it out on every sportbike he see's. Plus if you get pulled by that same officer you can bet he is gonna ask for that camera and your getting a ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willb003 View Post
    awesome.

    Now the bad news, this police officer is gonna be mad and take it out on every sportbike he see's. Plus if you get pulled by that same officer you can bet he is gonna ask for that camera and your getting a ticket.
    Protection against reasonable search & seizure?

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    Next time I'm on P2P I'm gonna fill my gopro case with gum balls and mount the camera somewhere else.

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    Cop: Sir imma hafta take that camera....

    Me: Either you show me a warrant allowing you to seize it, arrest me for something viable and confiscate it as evidence or politely go fuck yourself......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenshu View Post
    Cop: Sir imma hafta take that camera....

    Me: Either you show me a warrant allowing you to seize it, arrest me for something viable and confiscate it as evidence or have a gumball and politely go fuck yourself......
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    Congrats on winning your case, Grim.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanatos View Post
    Congrats on winning your case, Grim.
    Thank you

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    Good one young blood!!! Dodge a bullet . Go celebrate!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    The point is, I think Grim won this one only because the court accepted the photos as evidence, but did not require or demand the entire video be produced and played.

    I think it worked for Grim because of the way that he set it up and the fact that the court didn't think to press the issue.
    Wouldn't this qualify as "res ipsa loquitur"? The photos Grim submitted were enough evidence to clearly show the facts of his case and he cannot be forced to provide further detail. Since the cop failed to rebutt when Grim provided his evidence, I think thats it. Case closed. The only thing that should change the scenario for anyone else would be whether the cop has evidence of his own. And if thats the case, its likely that you were not wrongly accused, as it appears Grim was. But Im no lawyer!



    Quote Originally Posted by willb003 View Post
    this police officer is gonna be mad and take it out on every sportbike he see's.
    Yeah he was already doing that before he cited Grim. There are several here who can attest to that lol! Guy was the kind of cop that probably went into law enforcement as a way to get revenge on all the cool kids who made fun of him in school. His first words to me on the side of the highway were "Theres only one reason to own one of these things and thats to break the law!".

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    Good on you Grim.

    I'm still not convinced that the camera could be confiscated and a warrant subseuently requested to view the contents.
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    What's the deputy's name?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stubbicatt View Post
    Good on you Grim.

    I'm still not convinced that the camera could be confiscated and a warrant subseuently requested to view the contents.
    for a simple traffic citation?

    I'm sure it would if there was a traffic accident.
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    Re: Grim fought the law and Grim won!!!!!!!!!!

    as more and more people have gopros i hope many others have the same effect as this.

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    GoPro ftw! Now I want one more then ever. We should do a group buy!

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