False: "There are no good cops left"

[tecknojoe]

Funny how we talked about this last night at the meetup, and today I get pulled over on my R6 for the first time ever (my third season riding now).

Cliff notes: I was respectful, did not act like I had some stupid sense of entitlement, and I ended up not getting a ticket because the officer gave me a brake.

My brother and I headed out to Golden and hit the canyons on my R6 and his MV. It was intermediate pace, which I usually don't do, but every once in a while I'm fine with it.

We got into the state park area, and passed an officer. The road could have easily been 45mph but was actually 35. We were not doing either of those speeds. We both knew he pulled behind us and were expecting to get pulled.

He initiates the stop, but my brother couldn't tell because he didnt have mirrors. I pull over, and the cop continues on to get my brother(may have thought he was getting ready to run). He blips the siren and my bro pulls over. I pull back about 50 ft and stop on a side road, in plain sight to the officer so that he didn't think I was trying to leave. Another cop comes up behind me.

So he says to me "good afternoon. Now I don't know what's really goin on here". I explain, "Oh I just wanted to get off the main road and out of the way. As you can see, I made sure I stayed within view of the officer so that he didnt think I took off on him". As I hand him my VALID license, registration, and insurance. He says "Ah ah ok I see now, well thank you for that. You probably just saved yourself a ticket". I smile and thanked him as he walks to his car. When he comes back, I speak first and say "squeeky clean right?" (duh, having a clear record and valid bike makes it SO much better). He said yea no problems. He told me the speed he clocked us at and that we need to just take it a little easy. He said he understood we were just out enjoying our bikes but to be safe. I thanked him and we wished each other a pleasant afternoon.

Same story for my brother, clean record, no bullshit, no ticket.

I deserved a ticket in that situation, no denying that. It wasn't right that I didn't get charged, so it was lucky. The police knew that we were probably going to ride chill for the rest of the day after that, and we did.

I'm not saying all cops have discression like these two did, but I've talked to police many a time in my shithead teenager days, and this is a very NORMAL experience. (my officer was P. Stanton with Gilpin County)

Treat them exactly the same as you would treat a biker that came up to you in a parking lot. You're both adults, just show him that you're a respectful, and responsible person.

For the record, my license plate isn't mounted perfectly either, Jester

[laspariahs]

So he's a good cop because you didn't get a ticket? It's also break not brake.

[Jmetz]

I haven't been pulled over on my bike but have received many a speeding ticket in my cage. I'd say with 90% of my encounters the police have been nice and I've even joked with them. Still got the tickets but they were courteous.

I just got one a couple weeks ago and had my Chihuahua in the front seat. He was going ballistic and acting like he was gonna tear the cop to pieces. The officer chuckles and talks nice to my dog all while repeatedly apologizing to me for having to ticket me. We are wrapping things up and he asks me if my dog is always that protective, I smile and say nah he just doesn't like cops. The officer laughs pretty good, apologizes again, and we bid each other good day.

[BlueRanger]

lol I'm the complete opposite. I've never been stopped driving my car but have received tickets on my bike. Can't complain, they're doing their job. Glad you didn't get a ticket.

[tecknojoe]

So he's a good cop because you didn't get a ticket? It's also break not brake.

the context we were using the phrase in last night was talking about how some people think cops are just out to fuck everyone. good is not a proper word. Nice would better describe it


gramer polise

[Mother Goose]

So he's a good cop because you didn't get a ticket? It's also break not brake.

Yes. The 2nd cop could have been a dick to him, and asked why he was running (which I've had happen before when I pulled off to wait for a friend). Sounds like he wasn't one of those power hungry cops that we've all encountered that try to find anything wrong, just to issue a ticket.

[asp_125]

Was Stanton driving a white Dodge Ram? I got pulled over by a Gilpin sheriff last year. We were going downhill in the sweepers before Rollinsville. I thought the posted limit was 55 (it was 45) in that stretch. I see him pull a U-turn and come up to me (lead bike) so I pulled over. Same thing, respectful, having all the papers in order. He ran my plates and came back to me saying "I know we just paved this road and you guys look like you want to have some fun. I see you have your gear (full leathers) but take it easy on my shift. Here's my card and have a nice day." We clearly deserved a ticket but got off with warnings. (I think my salt and pepper hair helped, though)

[BlueRanger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND1JOU7JbLQ&feature=youtu.be

[tecknojoe]

salt and pepper hair

damn that stuff must be usefull

Yea it was a white truck (donno about ram but I never looked). Both of them had white trucks though, I imagine a lot of the guys from that unit have those.

But just about the same story so it's possible. Real nice guy. I thought cops are supposed to tow your bike and make you walk and give you a big attitude?

[Bueller]

Gilpin Co. Sheriff has pulled me over several times over the years and I have never gotten a ticket. I avoid P2p because of the excessively low speed limits. It is 45 the entire way as I was informed during one of the stops. They have always been pretty cool with me, just telling me to chill a bit. We even got yanked in '04 in a huge group where the leaders were dragging knee and some cages called us in. They checked paperwork on everyone and let us all go with a verbal warning.

[Jesterbass21]

You're both adults, just show him that you're a respectful, and responsible person.

For the record, my license plate isn't mounted perfectly either, Jester

Did the officer give you any shit about your plate being mounted incorrectly? he pulled you over for speeding right? something I wasn't doing lol

I understand that there are understanding cops out there I am just unfortunate enough to not run into them lol

[stubbicatt]

Do not ever, repeat, EVER trust those guys. They are the Borg. Do not talk to them any more than necessary and know your rights as to when you are free to leave a consentual encounter. Never consent to anything. Do not speak.

Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut.

[Spooph]

Good on those cops! If only they weren't in such a minority...

[Sean]

Always nice to hear of a good cop. The good ones get a lot less publicity.

[Darth Do'Urden]

So he's a good cop because you didn't get a ticket?

Honestly not trying to start some crap...but yeah, based on the related story, I would go with "GOOD" not just "nice".

Cops are there to protect and serve. Speed limits are (supposed to be) set up to "protect" people in cars, as cars cannot navigate roads/traffic/conditions safely beyond a certain speed. Motorcycles merely get caught in the wash as "motor vehicles" even though they are clearly capable (even with a relatively new rider) of navigating roads safely at higher-than-posted speeds on a large majority of roads--it's simply the nature of this different beast we ride.

So when a police officer shows up that actually exhibits reason and logic over "letter of the law" nonsense, that makes them a "GOOD" cop. If hooligan hijinks and risky maneuvers are happening on public roads, then a "GOOD" cop will certainly issue a citation (or worse depending on how stupid the rider was being) in an effort to reduce the risky behavior and thereby increasing the safety factor.

Speed is not automatically unsafe. Poor and/or risky driving/riding for any given situation is unsafe.

[CYCLE_MONKEY]

Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he kept his mouth shut.

Best. Quote. EVER!

[JDK1962]

Best. Quote. EVER!

Yep. That and "Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth."

[Slo]

Good story Joe, have met a few good apples along with a few bad ones myself. No bearing on whether I got a ticket or not.

[Aaron]

Do not ever, repeat, EVER trust those guys. They are the Borg. Do not talk to them any more than necessary and know your rights as to when you are free to leave a consentual encounter. Never consent to anything. Do not speak.

Reading his post, there was nothing consensual about that encounter, and he wasn't free to leave until told he can leave. It's fine to know your rights, but be sure you know them well enough to not face 50,000 volts.

For the record, that was not a consensual encounter, and he was not free to leave.

[kingtut]

A thread revival, yes. I don't feel my short blurb deserves its own thread/title. Though this is a similar topic and almost a year later- it seems most appropriate. Plus Joe likes seeing his name on the main page, so its a win-win.

Was riding south on Sante Fe tonight, towards C470. Probably going 65 (in a 45). Honestly, I didn't even realize I was speeding. Probably because it was starting to get chilly and I was cold as balls. I look to my right, just as I see the reflection of the white stripe on the Police car. Like always, right? I let off the throttle, and look in the mirror. Boom, there go the the lights. I'm like, "fuuu". Not 2 seconds later (as my heart is in my throat) they turn back off and he just stays put. (Phew).

Thank you Mr. Officer.

[madvlad]

Gotta love those or when they pull out and come up behind you really fast and follow you for a few blocks and then take off or turn around to make your nuts go to your throat lol... Hate those situations!

[06xbss]

We got into the state park area

This is why I never do more then 40mph through the state park. I tend to behave in Gilpin anyway, in a small county it pays to keep things civil with the local police.

Looks like they've been able to weed out most of the asshole cops in Gilpin County. Used to be, 10mph over while going through a sweeper would get you a reckless driving/speeding ticket.(no matter how nice/respectful you were to the cop)

P.S. All Gilpin County cops drive white dodge ram pickups, 6-8 marked and at least 1 unmarked.

[#1Townie]

Haha damn near a year to the day. Lol.

Btw. FTP!!!!!!!!

[tecknojoe]

Happy 1 year anniversary 'good cop thread'