Do something productive with your time there in bed and leave the reruns of Jersey Shore to someone else.
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Do something productive with your time there in bed and leave the reruns of Jersey Shore to someone else.
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1999 DR650SE
Dickhead move or not, you (and only you) are in control of your emotions and skill. You let the red mist get to you, and over rode your ability. Do something constructive - heal up and learn something about yourself from this experience; being bitter accomplishes nothing.
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Heal up soon dude! I don't know you, but if you want some company, send me a PM and tell me which hospital you're in. I'll bring a movie and some popcorn or whatevs... Hospitals can get pretty boring...
Thanks indeed, I missed one hell of a ride.
And thanks for the vids GRIM!
Last edited by Spooph; Mon Mar 11th, 2013 at 04:15 PM.
Respect and truth trump all!
I don't get lost. I explore.
What I learned in my class is that it takes a number of things to come together before a crash actually happens. Get rid of one of the things (IE: Break the Chain) and the crash would not happen.
Please chime in (to add or subtract) but these are the things I see that completed the chain:
1: Jay is a Noob in group ride
2: Jay was trying to break through the pack so he could ride right next to YamahaRider22 instead of staying in staggered formation
3: YR22 kept his mouth shut about #2
4: YR22 invited Jay to the gathering as a friend and to hang out with.
5: Jay tried to keep up with his friend "YR22".
6: Jay passed his friend
7: YR22 is now in a bad mood and pissed, cause him to cross the double yellow to pass his friend around a 130 degree turn
8: YR22 comes back across the double yellow while in a lean.
The chain is complete and crash is imminent, if not there, then some other place up HWY7.
Break one of the items in the chain above and the crash would not happen.
I am not saying who is to blame, I am just saying what I learned in my class and plan to live by this rule of "Break the Chain"
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Jay has nothing to do with it. If it weren't him, it would have been another noob or some other motorist on the road. The situation was overdue to happen and if it didn't take place on this ride, it was just a matter of time.
1998 VFR800 Interceptor - resurrected and custom tail http://vfrworld.com/forums/5th-gener...98-vfr800.html
1999 DR650SE
2008 GSX650F
2012 Azera, 2009 Santa Fe, 2002 300M,
2001 Aurora Sold, 1966 Coronet 500 Sold, 1992 3000GT VR4 Sold, and many others sold
Hindsight = 20/20.
One usually doesn't have the benefit of foresight in these circumstances to recognize the links in the "chain" so as to break it. Which is why they're called accidents. If this is your master plan for staying safe on two wheels, then the best of luck to you.
Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.
I am 52 years old. I have been driving cars since I was 15 and riding bikes since I was was about 13. I have been off the bike for about 15 years and that is why I call myself a noob.
With that said, I have been in many accidents and two were my fault. Guess what, I was been stupid those two time. Once I wanted to see how the new trans will work and I t-boned a car. The second, I wanted to see how fast my car could make it around a turn and I ended up in a tree. There should have been other times that I really should not have made it, but somehow I did. Once again, all those times I was being stupid.
If you are calling YR22 crash an accident, then all I can say is I hope you learned something.
Definition of "Accident" is An unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury.
This was neither unexpected or unintentional.
I am not judging. We all really feel for YR22 and wish him the best. He has my cell and can call me if he wants company at the hospital. CSC is here to help and point out things people do wrong. I hope when I do something wrong, pleeease tell me so I can correct it.
If/when I get into a crash, I hope, everyone here will tell me what I did wrong, then come visit me in the hospital and then hit me over the head for being stupid.
As far as breaking the chain, the instructor of my riding class has over 500K under his belt by making sure that the chain is not completed.
My goal is to have fun on the bike and try to stay alive. To stay alive, I don't plan on getting into any accident.
All of my friends and family members that have been in motorcycle crashes, that have been injured and/or killed (Yes. I have lost three to be exact). One was being stupid, one was drunk and the third one did not have a helmet on). I call one of them an accident because he hit sand around a turn but he was the one not wearing a helmet, the other two I call crashes.
So to answer your question, Yes, this is my master plan plus getting more experience.
I really hope you have taken a safety course. If you haven't, please take one, it is worth it.
Last edited by moep; Tue Mar 12th, 2013 at 10:56 PM.
2008 GSX650F
2012 Azera, 2009 Santa Fe, 2002 300M,
2001 Aurora Sold, 1966 Coronet 500 Sold, 1992 3000GT VR4 Sold, and many others sold
Taking that fall you're lucky to be alive man. I wish you my heartfelt best for your recovery. I have no doubt you'll relive those moments before the crash for the rest of your life, as any who have stared death in the face can attest. You can't help but learn and grow from it because the pains and scars will serve as a constant reminder. I'm glad you want to get back in the saddle, but for now, get well.
Reminds me of a similar, near-incident, I had riding north with Clovis from Pine to Pine Junction last year. Got caught behind a dual-sport rider who, as I was passing him on a straight, decided to speed up to prevent me from making the pass. It didn't stop me from passing him, but it was at far too uncomfortable a speed for me on that stretch of highway.
Foolishly, I kept up the pace to put some distance between he and I and entered a corner too hot, braked, stood up, fixated, and crossed deep into the oncoming lane. I'm lucky the lane was empty and came to my senses before hitting the edge of the highway.
In hindsight, I should have left my ego at home and backed off when the other rider accelerated. Regardless, I took another token out of my bag of luck that day. It was a stupid mistake that I think back on and shudder at the thought of the other potential outcomes.
I'm not judging or pointing finger, what I will share however is my ethos for riding:
I, as the rider, am 100% responsible for my safety on the road, and that includes compensating for the stupid/inattentive/ego-driven people on the road.
Wanna know how you're an "experienced" rider? It has nothing to do with speed.... It has everything to do with knowing what is going to happen BEFORE it happens... THAT'S experienced. Not mileage, time or anything else.
I used to be an experienced rider, but have never been "the fastest", then I took 9 months off the bike. After breaking the bike out the other day I realized just how newb I now am. Luckily I retained my situational awareness. I am preparing myself for a slow but safe returning season on the bike....
Respect and truth trump all!
I don't get lost. I explore.
Well said
When I was a newer sportbike rider, when I first joined the club, I would go on group rides and see experienced racers come in at the back of the pack and I would always think "damn these guys are slow for being racers". Then I'd go to the track and see them flying and it finally clicked that experience means knowing when and where to push it.
Bulldog's Motto: F*ck around and I'm going to bite you!!!
Nice post spooph
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1999 DR650SE
I agree with your ethos Spooph, and I like your definition of "experienced". For my tastes though, I believe it is the miles and time spent in the saddle, that help build and hone those "what might happen next" senses.
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Anyone know how YamahaRider22 is doing?
2008 GSX650F
2012 Azera, 2009 Santa Fe, 2002 300M,
2001 Aurora Sold, 1966 Coronet 500 Sold, 1992 3000GT VR4 Sold, and many others sold